Jump to content

Secure your aircraft at all times.

0TreeLemur

By 0TreeLemur
in Miscellaneous Aviation Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

0TreeLemur Grand Master

0TreeLemur

Posted
Posted

Video from Fresno, showing a King Air 200 being driven around the ramp by a 17 year old girl who hopped the fence and decided to go for a drive.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/us/teenager-steals-plane-trnd/index.html

I don't think I could just climb into a King Air and get it started.  Flight sim experience or found a good online video?  A for effort, F for taxi skills.

Niko182 Grand Master

Niko182

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, steingar said:

I think starting an engine in one of those things is no easy task.  I strongly suspect drugs and/or alcohol were involved.  At least I hope so.

I doubt it. its not like the thing has a key to start it. You need to somewhat know what you're doing in order to be able to start it.

  • Like 1
CharlesHuddleston Collaborator

CharlesHuddleston

Posted
Posted

That's an expensive mess! Wonder who will foot the bill for that one? FBO? Owner? You know a 17 yr old is not going to be able to pay for the repairs... I'm constantly reminded at how frighteningly stupid at the actions of others can be. 

  • Like 1
kortopates Grand Master

kortopates

Posted
Posted
That's an expensive mess! Wonder who will foot the bill for that one? FBO? Owner? You know a 17 yr old is not going to be able to pay for the repairs... I'm constantly reminded at how frighteningly stupid at the actions of others can be. 

Interesting question. I bet the owners insurance will first take care of the owner(s) right away and then go after the girls parents, since she’s a minor, and perhaps the FBO. Probably to be played out in court.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mooney in Oz Mentor

Mooney in Oz

Posted
Posted
7 hours ago, ArtVandelay said:

If this is new, it might be FADEC? I think new TBMs are easy to start as a car.


Tom

It's a King Air 200 so probably not FADEC.

Although these are not hard to start one would still need to know the method.

A few Youtube videos explain this method.

  • Like 1
gsxrpilot Grand Master

gsxrpilot

Posted
Posted

You can't protect against all possible situations. At some point you just have to acknowledge that shit happens. And that's what we have insurance for. Even then, sometimes shit gets past insurance. And that's life. Nothing to see here.

Our car was totaled by a 17 year old girl who stole a car, ran a red light and hit us. Our insurance covered most of the cost, but there was still some left that we had to cover to get back into another car. A year or two later we were asked by the prosecutor if we wanted to press charges and try to get compensation from the girls parents. We declined. They've got enough shit to deal with and didn't need us piling on. At the end of the day, we move on. It cost a couple of grand, but easier for us than the poor parents who were struggling with a problematic daughter. 

Shit happens, and we didn't give it another thought. Life isn't fair, but that's life.

  • Like 5
  • Sad 1
thinwing Grand Master

thinwing

Posted
Posted
7 hours ago, gsxrpilot said:

You can't protect against all possible situations. At some point you just have to acknowledge that shit happens. And that's what we have insurance for. Even then, sometimes shit gets past insurance. And that's life. Nothing to see here.

Our car was totaled by a 17 year old girl who stole a car, ran a red light and hit us. Our insurance covered most of the cost, but there was still some left that we had to cover to get back into another car. A year or two later we were asked by the prosecutor if we wanted to press charges and try to get compensation from the girls parents. We declined. They've got enough shit to deal with and didn't need us piling on. At the end of the day, we move on. It cost a couple of grand, but easier for us than the poor parents who were struggling with a problematic daughter. 

Shit happens, and we didn't give it another thought. Life isn't fair, but that's life.

That is very admirable but in this case the girls parents are liable for a probable 2 mil totaled kingair plus damage to the fbo building after the girls cell phone taught her how to start the Pratt.The parents are probably homesteading their house and transferring assets as we speak.

amillet Mentor

amillet

Posted
Posted
9 hours ago, gsxrpilot said:

You can't protect against all possible situations. At some point you just have to acknowledge that shit happens. And that's what we have insurance for. Even then, sometimes shit gets past insurance. And that's life. Nothing to see here.

Our car was totaled by a 17 year old girl who stole a car, ran a red light and hit us. Our insurance covered most of the cost, but there was still some left that we had to cover to get back into another car. A year or two later we were asked by the prosecutor if we wanted to press charges and try to get compensation from the girls parents. We declined. They've got enough shit to deal with and didn't need us piling on. At the end of the day, we move on. It cost a couple of grand, but easier for us than the poor parents who were struggling with a problematic daughter. 

Shit happens, and we didn't give it another thought. Life isn't fair, but that's life.

About 25 years ago something similar happened to me. A teenage foster child “borrowed “ his foster parents car late one night. In the ensuing joy ride being pursued by the police he failed to complete a left hand corner and hit the side of my office building, punching through the front wall and into the conference room.  Insurance took care of it.

  • Like 1
MrRodgers Experienced

MrRodgers

Posted
Posted
That's an expensive mess! Wonder who will foot the bill for that one? FBO? Owner? You know a 17 yr old is not going to be able to pay for the repairs... I'm constantly reminded at how frighteningly stupid at the actions of others can be. 


Her parents will most likely be held somewhat financially responsible seeing as she is still a minor.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  • Sad 1
GeeBee Grand Master

GeeBee

Posted
Posted

You can be pretty abusive to a PT-6 on the start and it will fire up. Maybe not within ITT limits, but It will start and run. If she got in and just put all the levers forward and hit the master and start switches it would light off, although I suspect maybe only one started because the other was further from the battery and could not get enough rotation. Don't forget, the engine was originally designed to power pumps and generators in the third world before it was an aircraft engine. It is pretty robust.

 

Bravoman Mentor

Bravoman

Posted
Posted

Generally speaking parents are not liable for the torts of minor children. There are some exceptions such as negligent entrustment or supervision but these are not species of vicarious liability but rather the direct negligence of the parent or guardian, and these theories only apply in very limited circumstances.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.