KSMooniac

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  1. I believe it was cut up long ago. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  2. The liability/insurance costs have gone off the rail. Don't forget that it isn't just Mooney... It is Continental/CMI, Hartzell, Garmin, the aluminum vendor, tank sealant vendor, etc. Each of those suppliers have exposure and by the time a Mooney delivers, that exposure and this cost has been compounded a few times. It is a terrible reality that has been slowly killing our industry for 40 years now. Friends of mine did an easy study in the 90s... Plot the price of a new 172 vs average engineer starting salary out of college. They tracked essentially 1:1 until the late 70's when the lawsuits started going crazy, and then the price started diverging. Now it is on the order of 6:1, which is beyond any reasonable aspiration for someone in the middle class. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  3. I forgot to mention that right after we secured my J, another J/MSE was parked right next to me for a pilots n paws flight. It was a great day to fly! Our original plan was to go to KCOS in Friday night, but we couldn't make it due to work and instead met our family in Denver on Saturday. It's so nice to have the flexibility! Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  4. The Evolution was a new design, not a derivative of the IV and it is substantially larger as you observed. The ES was essentially a IV with a bigger wing and tail and fixed gear. The Columbia evolved from the ES in concept and size, but in fact has nothing in common with the ES. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  5. Hi Don, I saw your gorgeous K when we arrived at Tac Air on Saturday, and was happy to see my plane moved next to yours for overnight parking. We left on Sunday afternoon... Just a quick visit. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  6. Look who I found at KAPA this weekend! ( That's me in front) Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  7. That was news to me! I'm not sure who posted it first. I'm 100 hours away from needing his services so I hope he's still open. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  8. I can assure you the M10 was very overweight. If it performed to the original goals, then you can bet it would've gone into production for the US market. There is a need for trainers here, now. And ones that could be operated for less than current Cessna and Piper options would be hugely popular. Selling in China would be gravy... The money was spent, so it's not like they got a great design in the air and said, "well, we can't sell these in China yet so let's just shut it all down.". Far from it... It was a flop of a plane. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  9. There wasn't any grand announcement with fanfare that the program was scrapped... The second CEO let it slip before he was fired, and then later they said it was being evaluated. Eventually Chino closed and just about everyone out there was let go. The bond tools were scrapped, etc. Lots went wrong with the program. I know how I would've done things, but I wasn't in charge of anything. . I feel bad that so much capital was wasted and that it might've been a fatal blow to the company. Perhaps not... We'll see what happens next. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  10. I and a few others have commented on other threads... My executive summary is great idea/concept, terrible execution. The plane ended up hundreds of pounds overweight, and didn't fly very well. IMO there isn't really anything to salvage from the program aside from the idea of it. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  11. I generally would agree, but in Mooney's case they really need to get the fabrication time and labor costs down, so that means a new design. Even if the aero configuration is maintained, altering the structural design would trigger all kinds of engineering and certification costs... But those are just paid once and hopefully the increased sales from quicker assembly and lower costs would more than offset that expense. Perhaps it might be possible to look at reducing part count without changing the design enough to trigger new cert activity? At my employer, we can form fuselage skins that are 20+ feet long... If that were applied at Mooney then the wing skins could potentially be one piece from the breakpoint to the tip. But Mooney likely doesn't have that capability... And it would mean more expensive repairs in the fleet down the road. Perhaps the spars could be milled from plate instead of built up assemblies? There are plenty of other things to look at, and I have no idea what has been studied in Kerrville in the past. I hope they'll get another chance to keep the brand alive, and hopefully flourish in the future. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  12. If the M10 had been successful, it likely could've been in serial production right now and helping fund the M20 replacement. The composite M10 would've been a great stepping stone to a modern 4 place XC bird... But that ship has sailed and I doubt the ownership will touch the stove again and try a new plane from scratch. I hope I'm wrong, or they sell it to someone that wants to do so, but with the right people in charge the next time. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  13. I have a surplus pair of flat ones that are painted green. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk
  14. Alan, if your cracked spinner is for the stock 2 blade McCauley I’d be interested in buying it for non-flying mock up use. I’d of course like to pay as close to zero plus shipping cost... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  15. The wiser choice would be to start over with the same concept. Seriously. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk