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aaronk25

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Bravoman Mentor

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6 minutes ago, aaronk25 said:

 

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/N201AD-1475095201-3-0-29

On a trip back to MN from Philly had to top some Icing and climbed up to FL200. Had some push with a tail wind too.

165kt plane at 8000 and 150's up into the teens. Pretty awesome aircraft. 27f5f00dd80d637170622885af4a21dc.jpg

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I flew up to Gary Ind. yesterday from Atlanta and had to get over the same stuff!

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What brought you to Wings Field? (On field restaurant is the  Birth place of AOPA)
I had worked for a company down the street.
Best regards,
-a-



I run a company that prefabricated buildings and we're going to be shipping a 6 level apartment building to down town philly next summer. About 200 semis worth of product.
Philly is a nice place to visit and looking forward to going back there.


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Bravoman Mentor

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 I have never flown a J, and it amazes me that it is able to climb that high. My normally aspirated fixed gear Saratoga is basically out of gas at 14,000 feet. 

Piloto Grand Master

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Well, you do not need a turbo to take advantage of tail winds.

On my way to Pittsburgh KAGC with my wife and a lot of stuff at 12,000 feet doing over 200kts.

José

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Piloto Grand Master

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Just now, N9201A said:

Did you actually experience icing or climb to avoid forecast icing?

No icing, just climbed to take advantage of the tail winds. Before departure I sprayed the leading edge with WD-40 to minimize icing. Seems to help since I got a bit of ice on the windshield but not on the wings.

José

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No icing, just climbed to take advantage of the tail winds. Before departure I sprayed the leading edge with WD-40 to minimize icing. Seems to help since I got a bit of ice on the windshield but not on the wings.
José

Interesting, I hope you did the tail surfaces as well.
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curious to know ....
what kind of rate of climb do you get above 12000 ?
How much oxygen did you use for 2 hours ?
 



2 pax using nasal canualas is good for about 8 hours.using a bottle that is 2.5ft tall 6" diameter

Climb rate at 12k is 350-400
15k 275

19k 150

Or look at the link it has climb rate


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Bravoman Mentor

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3 hours ago, Piloto said:

No icing, just climbed to take advantage of the tail winds. Before departure I sprayed the leading edge with WD-40 to minimize icing. Seems to help since I got a bit of ice on the windshield but not on the wings.

José

I think you're a major stockholder in the company that makes the stuff!

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3 hours ago, Piloto said:

No icing, just climbed to take advantage of the tail winds. Before departure I sprayed the leading edge with WD-40 to minimize icing. Seems to help since I got a bit of ice on the windshield but not on the wings.

José

That's an interesting technique.  How much did you get on the windshield (spot ice or creeping up from the bottom) and did the defrosters help any?

Brian

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Did you actually experience icing or climb to avoid forecast icing?


Pick up a trace and knew the tops weeny much higher so climbed on top.


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I hadn't thought of WD40... interesting. I have thought of using RainX and wondered if it would keep water from sticking to the leading edges. 

I don't ever intend to fly through ice. But with a proper high altitude machine and a hot prop, it could happen.

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carusoam Grand Master

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RainX is great for glass.  But, may not be good for the other surfaces.  The label and website may have useable information regarding this.

If their solvent choice has been improved over the years, it could be quite nice... (my experiments were automotive based, but wanted to use on the plane)

Best regards,

-a-

Piloto Grand Master

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1 hour ago, flight2000 said:

That's an interesting technique.  How much did you get on the windshield (spot ice or creeping up from the bottom) and did the defrosters help any?

Brian

It was even all over but not thick. The defroster just clears a small area at the bottom, just enough to see the runway ahead.

You can try WD-40 de-icing properties at home. Have two small pieces of aluminum (coke can). Spray in one of them WD-40 and the other one clean. Put them in your home freezer with drops of water on them. After one hour pull them out. You will notice that the iced drop on the one with WD-40 will slide out while the iced drop on the clean one stays on the metal. What I do not know is for how long WD-40 will stay on the leading edge with a 150kts wind. From my experience it appears you have to spray it before every flight subject to possible icing. At least the WD-40 can weight less than the TKS container and is cheaper.

José

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Not sure I've ever seen my asi that low in cruise. 



Ya 105kts IAS works out to 145kts true when corrected for temp and altitude.

Burning 6.7gph almost 25mpg (statute).




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