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19 hours ago, Seth said:

So, there will be up to 4 of these groups in the end.

1. Inexpensive slow airplane that can be tied down not in a hangar. C-150/PA-28-140/Skipper/Tomahawk

2. Fun airplane - hangar - RV-4/Citabria/Decathelon

3. people moved - Baron/PA32/Seneca

4. pressurized expensive fast thing - Cheyenne/Aerostar/C-414/B58P etx

I love the idea of a Cub or Carbon Cub but it doesn’t fit price wise into grouping 1. Maybe grouping 2 for non aerobatic

We keep coming back to a 150 or PA-28-140. The skipper is slower and parts are expensive. The Tomahawk has bad spin characteristics on purpose. Any other designs I’m missing? We also though C-140A but we’d likely want to hangar that. Maybe Ercoupe if all metal?

 

-Seth 

 

The Bold Warrior STC conversion was recently expanded to more model years, giving you a very straightforward upgrade path to 180 HP for most Warriors on the market.  Doesn’t come with a gross weight increase, but you basically get an “Archer Coupe” with essentially identical performance for a fraction of the price.  I flew a PA28-151 both pre-conversion and post-conversion, and the upgrade results in an almost completely different airplane.  Climbed even better than the Archers I was renting.

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KLRDMD
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I've been flying an Ercoupe some lately and it is a hoot!

KLRDMD
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I fly with Jessica Cox in her Aircoupe. https://www.jessicacox.com

aviatoreb
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What about the L39?!

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The air coup looks like fun not sure what they sell for.  Low cost for putting around I would look for an early C150 straight tail.  No spin restrictions. My 150 used less than 5 GPH and landing at just under stall with the 40 degree fowler flaps could get it stopped in a couple hundred feet.  Two doors imagine that.  Used to bank past 60 degrees. It was just fun to fly.

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Ross Taylor Proficient

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53 minutes ago, Schinderhannes said:

I am shocked about all the Ercoupe shatter but nobody has mentioned the Mooney M10 CADET - isn't this MOONEYSPACE? :-)

@BKlott tossed it out as an option, partway down the first page, but didn't have any takers.  I'll "third" the suggestion, though. :D

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Hank Grand Master

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These look like fun! Don't even need an airport or even a smooth field to take off and land.

         https://justaircraft.com/

These also look like lots of fun, and are trailerable. Not sure about the takedown and put-back-together time (or even if just one person can do it). My wife has said that I can't have a single-place plane, but they sure look like fun! Slow, but fun!

          https://airdromeaeroplanes.com/

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46 minutes ago, KLRDMD said:

I fly with Jessica Cox in her Aircoupe.

https://www.jessicacox.com

Jessica is an amazing person!  It would be an honor to fly with her.  

Seth,  personalty I would only entertain an airplane that is FUN.  I know all airplanes fun but I would want to pick one that offers something completely different than the Mooney.  A Cherokee 140 or 172 are great airplanes but they are slow.  And not the fun "low and slow" type.  A Cub, Champ, C120/140, or Ercoupe/Aircoupe, M10, etc. make "low and slow" a fun adventure.  I'm a bit biased toward the Coupes as I have over 1K hrs in them.  As mentioned above a M10 or Mooney A2a would be appropriate to save face here on Mooneyspace.  The Mooney A2a is a neat one, Mooney finished 30 something Aircoupes before sticking the M10 tail on.  I have had the privilege of flying 2 of them, it's strange having the H tail With the Mooney logo all over the inside. 

Cheers,

Dan

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27 minutes ago, KLRDMD said:

I fly with Jessica Cox in her Aircoupe.

https://www.jessicacox.com


Something sounded familiar about her name combined with her preferred steed...

I was looking forward to clicking the link... just to see if my memory was intact!

She leaves a great lasting memory! :)
 

Thanks for sharing the link...

Best regards,

-a-

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39 minutes ago, carusoam said:

Something sounded familiar about her name combined with her preferred steed...

I was looking forward to clicking the link... just to see if my memory was intact!

She leaves a great lasting memory! :)

She is an amazing woman. Around the first of the year she started basing her airplane at my Airpark. She hadn't flown in a number of months so I kind of became her CFI. We have a few hours together now and she is almost confident enough to solo again (she has her certificate). Maybe this weekend!

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cliffy Grand Master

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So we have 4-5 guys at $4K each That makes all in 16K to 20K     Its fun to spend OPM but some miss the budget angle here. 

DO yourself a favor and just look at a good Cessna 150, cheap to buy, cheap to fly and it will do more than any Mooney for fun low and slow OR doing "limited" aerobatics  Stalls. spins, tight turns, 40 flap power off spot landings, the O-200 is bullet proof, the 100 hrs and annuals are cheap and quick. Just find one that has a good main gear mounting box. Check that real good for cracks from student hard landings and the bottom of the firewall for wrinkles for the same reason.  

And you can actually go somewhere in it if you want to.  They sold it as a business mans traveling chariot with wheel pants and a slick paint job. 

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On 6/17/2020 at 10:44 PM, aviatoreb said:

Yes - definitely group 5.  jet war bird.

And group 6.  Piston war bird.

And group 7. Seaplane.

And group 8. helicopter.

And group 9. Gyrocopter.

And group 10.  Blimp.

Group 11. Soaring

Mayber the group can find an inexpensive motorized glider? 

 

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Hank Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Mcstealth said:

Group 11. Soaring

Mayber the group can find an inexpensive motorized glider? 

Just get a vintage Mooney, mine glides really well. Especially if I come in to land a little fast, or fly an approach wheels up!  :P

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ZuluZulu Mentor

ZuluZulu

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Fun, cheap soaring, and approved for performing your own maintenance?  I got you covered.  Might take a while to track down the owner of the type certificate, but it’s worth it.

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Hank Grand Master

Hank

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22 minutes ago, philip_g said:

44k for the kit, what's a rotax cost? 20k? plus avionics... sounds expensive. Buy a used kitfox.

A Kitfox won't do what Just Aircraft will. We should know, or we'd all fly Cessnas . . . .

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KLRDMD Grand Master

KLRDMD

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55 minutes ago, carusoam said:

Classic Jessica Cox….  Note for @KLRDMD…

If you are ever having a bad day….

Jessica demonstrates how to handle it….

Go Jessica!

Jessica told me about that right after it happened. Her hangar is about 20 yard from mine.

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