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I didn't want to hijack the thread about the C model in Nevada...
Yes, N1960 is a sweet Mooney A model. I brought her avionics into the 21st Century and babied her and she is one of the best A models still flying. But after 12 years there were things I wanted to move on to that I couldn't do with the A but can with the C (Trutrak for one), and this one (N33DS) is a sweet '68 with an Aspen, 430W, 201 cowl/windshield/tail and 0 SMOH engine, all new rubber and interior that had spent most of her life in dry states. Great speed and climb rates (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N33DS/history/20181026/1911Z) to 13,500 and land in 57 minutes, including a 159mph 3-way TAS test at 13,500. The A model N1960 is now owned by a great guy here in the Dallas area who I believe will keep her in excellent shape.
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Dave,
Good to hear that, seems you found nicely equipped plane. Congrats...
You had A for 12 years... long time, I'm sure it was not easy to let her go. I'm curious, was your A faster then "new" C? They always say how those wooden wings are better made then Al.
Best regards,
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In my cruise performance chart, based on hundreds of flights where I collected data, the best TAS my M20A did at 13,500 was 162mph, and the other speed I have logged there is 155mph. Both computed TAS based on IAS, altitude, OAT, etc. The TAS I logged for the new M20C was 159mph which was measured using GPS in the best practices horseshoe pattern and calculation. So the A is 3mph faster than the C at best. That would jive with other times I've flown beside other C models and been a few knots faster. And the 201 I outran around Lake Powell one year
This C has several hundred pounds more useful load, so given the same payload in each, she climbs faster. 450MSL to 13,500MSL averaged 571fpm which ain't shabby. She was still climbing at 375fpm when I leveled off at 13.5
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Considering M20C stored in hangar/garage in Nevada
Igor_U replied to M20 Ogler's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
Hay Dave, I see you are the C owner now. Did you sell your sweet A model? Why? I remember that as a really nice Mooney. Good luck. -
As GSXRPILOT said, with no FF you wouldn't know your GAMI spread (read about it) however I run successfully LOP for years with 4 channel CHT/EGT my plane originally came with. our Lycoming IO360 run very well LOP with stock injectors and as long as I was high enough (or less then 70-70% power) to be out of GAMI's "red box" I had no issues. Of course, FF gives you more info and makes it easy as I just set the FF without really worrying how far LOP I am while in the past I had to find richest running cylinder and get it on the lean side for cruse flight... You might want to research if Insight has a trade in program and upgrade your G1. Regards,
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I bet that was purchased for canceled M10. I would like to hear Mooney is working on something new but I don't see that coming soon (if ever). Oh, I almost forgot: I would really like to see how they install that shell over the tubular space frame. It must be neat: wiring and avionics boxes are all in and you put the composite shell over the fuselage structure.
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IO360-a1A in my '67 F. FF is 16.X gph at my home field 570' (it gets in high 15.X after few minutes of climb) and I remember being somewhat higher... From what I see here, that's on lower end for our engines.
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How long would you say for removal and replacement? Mu fuel flow on takeoff is around 16gph (seems to be somewhat higher before) and might need bench adjustment or OH...
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not good news. It must be us, Brittain A/P owners and CB with all the testimonials how great and cheap to maintain are that made big G rethink their priorities...
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Interesting... And makes sense as my IA and DG don't need Avionics master either...
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CGR-30 (or MVP-50, I guess) install time
Igor_U replied to johncuyle's topic in Avionics/Panel Discussion
I agree 20-25h estimate EU quotes for CGR30P is too optimistic. I did the install myself on 67M20F and would estimate close to 40h with few extra hours by my IA for inspection and fuel hose fabrication. Install is not difficult but it takes time to run and connect all the wires and sensors and you have 6 cylinders. I don't see why would JPI be easier, though. By far most time was spent removing existing instrument and cleaning up wires and hoses going through firewall. I see you're in SEA area and I'm curious who's the shop AFIK there's no MSC in the town any more... -
Just curious... Do you guys have your G5s wired to come on with Master switch or Avionics switch?
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Ken, Any reasons for flying 20h for transition? Insurance requirement, pilot's request, your estimate? I've got my complex endorsement and checkout on M20J and it took less then 5 hours.
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Have a look on Ebay, seems there's a set for sale. I'm not sure how easy are to use those. few years ago I've rented a hydraulic tool from business now closed (Hangar tool place or such) and were very good. Extremely easy to replace that even my IA was impressed. Good luck
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Just an additional date for OP: A well know avionics shop in Seattle area just quoted my friend 17h of install time on his Decathlon. Not a Mooney but then can't be much different... It might seem a lot but every single task adds up. Good luck.
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Actually, Garmin sells (only) their certified transponders to certified airplane owners for A/P install. I just bought GTX335 kit (all including GPS antenna, tray, new encoder and harness) from aircraft Spruce and will do install shortly.
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Hurricane Micheal damages to tied down Mooney
Igor_U replied to Fred_2O's topic in General Mooney Talk
So, There are lineups at Home depot for plywood you need to board up your house, you back yard needs prepping for incoming Michael, 2 million Floridians are driving north so you need to top off gas tank on all your cars and generator tanks, your newly born need baby formula for extra week or two, wife is scared, your dog want your attention and favorite kitten of your 3y daughter got lost… And you’ll drop all that and leave your family for two weeks just to move your 50 year old plane to Pennsylvania, away from storm and wait it out in motel room, on your own? I see you have your priorities straight! I guess it’s hard to imagine what is happening at such time if you didn’t experience it. Cheers,
