PT20J Posted May 6, 2020 Report Posted May 6, 2020 Curious what people like for a penetrating oil to loosen stuck nuts and such. I've had pretty good luck with Kroil. Another mechanic friend says there was a comparison in some magazine years ago and the winner was 1:1 mix of Dexron III ATF and Stoddard solvent. Apparently, it works even better if warmed. Skip Quote
Ross Taylor Posted May 6, 2020 Report Posted May 6, 2020 Another Kroil fan here! Edit to add: ...and heat, where appropriate. 1 Quote
Mufflerbearing Posted May 6, 2020 Report Posted May 6, 2020 Kroil as well. I've had success with LPS too. Quote
Hank Posted May 6, 2020 Report Posted May 6, 2020 I've had good success with Zep, when it was salemen only. Not sure of the Home Depot version. Haven't needed any the last few years, though--kinda nice! Quote
EricJ Posted May 7, 2020 Report Posted May 7, 2020 This guy did a bunch of very interesting, reasonably-controlled comparisons of various penetrating oils, in three different iterations: TL:DR - Liquid Wrench Penetrating or Sea Foam Deep Creep, depending on how much of a CB you are. Also, for large equipment/automotive, heat works better than anything, but that's not always possible, especially on an airplane. The proper way to use heat is to get it good and hot to break the rust bonds, then let it cool, then remove the fastener. Lots of people try to remove it hot when it's soft and have a bad time. I was always a PB Blaster junkie and started using Liquid Wrench after I saw this stuff, and keep some Sea Foam around once in a while, too. The differences aren't big in my observation, and sometimes if one doesn't work I'll try another. The vids are interesting if you have time to kill. Quote
carusoam Posted May 7, 2020 Report Posted May 7, 2020 Liquid wrench... Cause I have always used it... since I learned from somebody else... probably a guy named Dad... Might be time to use something more modern... Adding heat to the hole side, ice cube to cool the bolt... using differential expansion/contraction... Expect that it is a two part challenge... 1) Penetrate through the crust, down through the interlaced threads... 2) Dissolve the oxidated materials... sand in the threads is a big challenge... heat helps with the dissolving part... PP thoughts only... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Yetti Posted May 7, 2020 Report Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, carusoam said: Liquid wrench... Cause I have always used it... since I learned from somebody else... probably I guy named Dad... Might be time to use something more modern... same also have this spray stuff that the label is gone from. From dad. Great stuff. Don't know the name. Smells sweet. 1 Quote
Cody Stallings Posted May 8, 2020 Report Posted May 8, 2020 Was a Kroil guy for a long time. Had a salesman walk into my shop with a spray can with a corny label on it. He had a bolt he was holding upside down an he squirted some where the head an shank meet an I watched that oil climb up the bolt. It also foams for a bit vs just running off. Dosent have the Fancy smell like Kroil, an doesn't stink like PB Blaster. Better than both in my opinion 1 Quote
cferr59 Posted May 8, 2020 Report Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 8:57 PM, EricJ said: This guy did a bunch of very interesting, reasonably-controlled comparisons of various penetrating oils, in three different iteratio TL:DR - Liquid Wrench Penetrating or Sea Foam Deep Creep, depending on how much of a CB you are. Also, for large equipment/automotive, heat works better than anything, but that's not always possible, especially on an airplane. The proper way to use heat is to get it good and hot to break the rust bonds, then let it cool, then remove the fastener. Lots of people try to remove it hot when it's soft and have a bad time. I was always a PB Blaster junkie and started using Liquid Wrench after I saw this stuff, and keep some Sea Foam around once in a while, too. The differences aren't big in my observation, and sometimes if one doesn't work I'll try another. The vids are interesting if you have time to kill. I have been using PB Blaster, but it seems like I should switch to Liquid Wrench. I also have an acetylene torch at home, but I would hesitate to use that on the Mooney... 1 Quote
Mcstealth Posted May 8, 2020 Report Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) There's a pretty good funny waiting to be had with the title of this thread. I'm surprised @MooneyMitch hasn't claimed it yet. Back on topic, I have used Liquid Wrench forever, as a consumer of couse and not professionally. It has worked for me in my limited applications. Edited May 8, 2020 by Mcstealth Quote
MikeOH Posted May 9, 2020 Report Posted May 9, 2020 Another Liquid Wrench fan. My wife would probably divorce me if I tried that Little Rock product... 2 Quote
Ross Taylor Posted May 9, 2020 Report Posted May 9, 2020 Thanks much for the pointer @Freemasm - I placed my order last night! Quote
MooneyMitch Posted May 9, 2020 Report Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 4:59 AM, Mcstealth said: There's a pretty good funny waiting to be had with the title of this thread. I'm surprised @MooneyMitch hasn't claimed it yet. Back on topic, I have used Liquid Wrench forever, as a consumer of couse and not professionally. It has worked for me in my limited applications. I was waiting for you to capture......didn’t want to interfere or cause a possible locking of this thread . 1 Quote
Mcstealth Posted May 10, 2020 Report Posted May 10, 2020 On 5/9/2020 at 4:29 PM, MooneyMitch said: I was waiting for you to capture......didn’t want to interfere or cause a possible locking of this thread . Quote
Ross Taylor Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 @EricJ Kroil is obviously the best because I paid more for it and I always thought it was the best... haha! That video just ruined my hopes and dreams. Thanks, buddy. 1 Quote
markgrue Posted May 11, 2020 Report Posted May 11, 2020 I am a big fan of aerokroil. I use it a lot on exhaust nuts. Run the engine a bit to get it hot and then spray it on the threads while it is still hot. It will suck it up into the threads then when it cools it will usually come off. Mark 1 Quote
HRM Posted May 14, 2020 Report Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 12:32 AM, Cody Stallings said: Had a salesman walk into my shop with a spray can with a corny label on it. He had a bolt he was holding upside down an he squirted some where the head an shank meet an I watched that oil climb up the bolt. It also foams for a bit vs just running off. LOL...I thought you were going to say that after the stuff climbed up the bolt, the rusted nut spun off on it's own 1 Quote
tmo Posted May 14, 2020 Report Posted May 14, 2020 TBH, I was kind of thinking along the same lines... 2 Quote
47U Posted May 16, 2020 Report Posted May 16, 2020 I grew up on a farm in the mid-west and Kroil was the go-to for rusted/frozen parts. But, you have to give it some time to work. How well does it work on aluminum oxide? I’m finding out. Project is to replace the cabin door hinge, ship-side half, with a broken lobe (50+ years ago). Soaked it down two days ago, yesterday the punch and ball peen hammer doesn’t move it. We’ll see if I have better luck today. I’d rather replace just the ship-side half, and not take the door all apart to replace both halves. I’ll probably have to cut the top lobe off so I can put a locking pliers on it. tom Quote
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