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thanks for this suggestion...waited on hold for 10 min.,explained the problem,agent basically granted a 60 day extension of old cert till they work out issues with new cert.They emailed an authorization in 2 min...problem solved ..thanks all...k

Yes, it is. I have found a home for my Ovation in this beautiful hangar, it is the home base for a total of 13 planes. 7 of them are parked on a turntable with wooden planks, the rest on the sides. It's a really nice place. Could not have found a better spot. And I have 3 Mooneys as direct neighbors, an Acclaim, a 231 and this beautiful Porsche Mooney.

Hey Folks. The new Mooney website is up and running, take a look and jump in. We'll be improving and adding to it over the next few weeks. We welcome your participation in the forum and we may tap some of you to write blog as well. We're working hard but there's lots to do so please be patient with the website and our plans. Be safe and remember, there's no covid or politics at 10,000 feet, so go fly! Be safe! Jonny

Did a night landing at Newark this summer to drop a passenger. Totally reasonable. With little traffic in the air and ground, it was the best choice. Lights are unbelievable. It was a fast approach with that long runway and final. Enjoyed this fun exchange with Tower. We were about to join final for the visual 4R. Tower: "2PS, do you see that [jet type] ahead of you? 2PS: "Affirm." Tower: "Follow him in. Caution wake turbulence. He may pull away from you now." 2PS: "Roger. Following traffic, 2PS" Tower: "United xxx, Help him out and keep your speed up on final." United: "Ok, we'll keep our speed up. Uh, could I ask what's following us?" Tower: "A Mooney." United: "[chuckling amusement] Alright!" ----- I will admit there was a high five in the cockpit on hearing Tower ask a jet to keep its speed up for us. New York controllers are terrific and this is a great Mooney memory.

I didn't have anything exceptional in the flying department...but... Airspeed insures almost 140 Mooneys now!

you're thinking of the wrong airplane.

2020: flew 100 hours with which I'm satisfied given there was nowhere to fly for 2/3 of the year and precious little business travel. 2021: Sell the motorhome so I can fit a pressurized plane in the hangar -dan

It isn't rocket science to fix a heavy wing. You can either adjust the flap stops, or trim (bend) the aileron trailing edges. It is always good to level the ailerons first. BTW, this cannot be done with travel boards, it requires test flights.

Because the service manuals for the J and subsequent models were written after the AD was issued. Those service manuals have always required the lubrication in question, hence the issue is addressed for later models without the AD. Service manuals for the F and prior models were originally composed prior to the AD, and do not require the lubrication in question. The AD effectively modifies the lubrication guide of these service manuals. Note that later revisions of the service manual for the F and prior models do require the lubrication in question. One could argue the AD was made irrelevant when these revisions were published, but that assumes everyone has obtained and is following the later revisions. I don't think obtaining revision updates to service manuals is actually legally required, but compliance with ADs is.

To be clear, I’m not knocking the Aero-Lite. Perhaps it’s a good value, especially if you can avoid the additional price that comes with “airplane part”. I’m a sucker for overpaying for top of the line stuff though. Possible character flaw. lol I mean I bought Bose headsets and I don’t have my PPL yet or a functioning airplane and I’m now at risk of paying a whole lot of money for a landing light and have yet to land a night myself with my currently installed incandescent GE bulb. But the cowl is laying there in the hanger and calling my name “Put a really fancy LED in me, you know you want to...”. I reason it out as: I’ve spent a metric ton of money and time on this plane this year and if I put a good LED in it now it’s one thing I’ll never have to mess with again. I laughed at these new $600 Apple headphones, but found myself watching YouTube reviews on them today. I might need counseling. LMAO

Dr. Fauci says return to normalcy by Mooney Summit! So... if I only set one goal... See you there! Go Tampa! Best regards, -a-

I appreciate the effort that went into the new website, and much of it looks great. With that said, I have two constructive criticisms: 1) If strong support of existing customers is a primary goal, then access to technical documentation is the most important component of the web site. I share Mike's opinion on this - the current implementation gets a B- from me. I didn't have a lot of trouble finding the service bulletins, but it's a couple of clicks deep from the main page, and it's not searchable. I'm also not particularly happy with the icon grid layout you get once you select a model. It's slow to come up, hard to read, and requires more scrolling than necessary. This is a common mistake on the web: prioritizing the cosmetic appearance of data sets over their actual usability. A better approach would be a simple text table, instead of grid with icons. More readable, more usable, less scrolling. 2) I think the Air Traffic forum is a mistake. It's presence suggests Mooney thinks there should be an "official" Mooney discussion forum which they control, and the header introducing the forum confirms it: their terms, their login names, restricted only to owners, etc. I'm am trying to be amicable about this rather than being a Mooneyspace bigot; but I can't help but find it off-putting. If Mooney wants to support current owners with meaningful forum interaction, they should meet us where we are (which is here), rather than asking us to come to them. More importantly, setting up, administrating, and moderating a web forum is a skill set I would prefer that Mooney not spend energy on. It's a distraction from other things that are more important for the company. Why not just partner with Mooneyspace, at least informally? Setting up a whole different web forum strikes me as a solution in search of a problem, and something that is likely to sow discord and ill-will in the existing community.

I really like it. Its very friendly. I presume the new Mooneys to order will come. ...personally I especially like the new Mooney of the Month section. E

As a Mooney owner, former web developer and current software consultant, is this the most amazing website in the world? No, but I think Mooney needs to get back on their feet and doesn't have unlimited budget. I would love to be able to buy parts here, but it isn't a loss to be able to buy some reasonably priced merch. Building some excitement for the brand is a bit of a pre-req to be successful selling new airplanes. I am happy that the company is moving forward.

If the indication is jumpy high, additional isolation should be added, or the existing isolator should be swapped for one of a larger value. Conversely, if it is jumpy low or doesn't stabilize until higher power settings are selected, there may be too much isolation on the inputs. I recommend verifying RPM accuracy with an optical tach just to put to bed the possibility of an instrumentation error. In regard to troubleshooting fuel pressure, apply a known, regulated pressure and observe the instrument. They should match and be relatively steady. We always suggest to review the connections as a first step in jumpy indications. Let me know what you find as I will be happy to help further troubleshoot if you think the issue is instrument related.

It is fascinating to see how people transform the old panels in our Mooney's through upgrades and new technology. I thought it would be fun to create a thread where folks can post before, during, and after photos showing panel upgrades for folks to browse and consider the possibilities. I'll start with this "back to the future" look where we took the 1967 original panel and upgraded it to a standard steam gauge six-pack, plus a WAAS/ADS-B and electronic engine monitor. I hope others will post what they've done. It will be fun to see the collection.

Good news! My avionics guy just sent me an email, The GFC500 is now approved for the short body Mooney. This applies to aircraft made 1965 and later. the website of supported models has been updated. Celebration time. kz

The minimum required equipment is a G5 AI, Roll and pitch servo, and the controller. This will get you IAS climb, VS climb and decent, Altitude Preselect and GPS Track, Flight Director. If you add the GMU 11 and G5 HSI you will get heading. With a older Garmin GPS and GAD 29 you will get GPS navigation. WIth a Garmin Nav/COM you get VOR/LOC/ILS With a GNS430/530W you will add GPS glide slope The GTN adds VNAV.

Well everyone here it is, as promised! Garmin is pleased to announce it has received Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) STC for the GFC 500 autopilot in select Mooney M20 C, D, E models (1965 and later) and M20 F and G models, in addition to the Cessna 172RG series aircraft. Parts for both models can be ordered now, with shipping expected to begin by the end of December.

I didn't expect to get my multi this year but I jumped in an open spot and got 'er done

And I didn't spill any of my free quart of AeroShell on my Airspeed T-shirt!

The fact that you’ve had so many failures coupled with the loud “pop” sounds like you might have a short somewhere. The bulbs don’t draw a lot of current and transistors don’t make a sound when they blow. If you do replace the dimmer, I’d get a pulse width modulated one that will dim LED lights as well as incandescents. Skip

We ARE looking at technology 15 or 20 years old, analog stuff in an increasingly digital world. All the cool kids are going with Garmin, and other snazzy options not even certified for Mooney. The bins are full, if eBay is to be believed, of perfectly good old-school autopilots removed in favor of autopilots that will even rewarm your coffee. Will they work with what I have? Ah. That, my friend, is why I have an expert or two I’ll pay handsomely to do what must eventually be done.

Florida to California (KSEE) to Houston (KSGR) and back. Great trip! 200D13C3-D35B-4BAD-BA8C-64BF8282C051.MOV

Here are the dimensions for the short pedal extensions. Short pedal extension.pdf

Thank you everyone. I have reached out to a couple and I am now all setup for Saturday morning. Yeap, he did provide me a couple and one is good to go on Saturday. Phil Verhalen. I was supposed to go with Parker but he indisposed with plumbing issue unfortunately. We had been talking about it for a couple three weeks already. Next time Parker.

I used the factory senders, I had to overhaul both inboard senders. The trick is as the analog senders can be erratic with its readings, which doesn’t affect old analog gauges but digital sees the transient readings. If you pull the senders and test with a ohmmeter, look for consistent readings as you slowly move the armature, any jumps means they need to be serviced. It’s about $170 to overhaul, or Cies are about $450, if you go with capacitance version the JPI needs to go back to the factory and you need to replace all senders. In my case that was 4x$450, I chose to stay with the factory senders. Inboard senders spend all the time submerged, outboard units don’t unless you refill after every flight, so inboard units usually fail more often.

OK, I got that video posted. There are three separate and distinct products being discussed here, all with similar sounding names. Here are the numbers on all of these, from their datasheets: Aeroleds - Boise, ID - Sunspot 46LX - 70 watts - 7700 Lumens - 150000 candela - Certified $650. 110 lumens/watt and calculated beam angle 14 to 15 degrees to get these results. Landing/taxi light combo. Aero-Lites - Thomaston, GA - Fusion 46LR - 51 watts - 5200 lumens - for 10 deg beam angle it's about 170000 candela using 14 of the 18 emitters for the narrow beam. Non certified $159. About 101 lumens/watt. Landing/taxi light combo. Whelen Aviation Technologies - Parmetheus Pro PAR 46 series - 40 watts - calculated 14690 lumens using 240240 candela on a 16 degree beam width. Certified $599. Landing light (with taxi capability, not specified but their max candela graphic depicts wider beam width light out of the main beam, like the others) About 367 lumens/watt....? Aircraft Spruce lists this as 175000 candela on 16 degrees, or 10700 lumens and 267 lumens/watt. The Aero-Lites bulb is clearly a good value assuming one wants to go through any potential certification hassle. My AMT had no issue with it. The WAT bulb is very late technology and very bright, but AFAIK LEDs are still at 100-120 lumens/watt efficacy at present. Perhaps Whelen has made a breakthrough on LED efficacy which would explain the numbers....or I have made some other calculation error. Whelen's data sheet on the 45 minute run indicates these late bulbs do better on thermal management, meaning more consistent output as they are operated and then heat up. Would be fun to run these three side by side. Fusion 46LR.mp4

Interesting question. I asked my DPE friend. Here's what he told me. 1. The temporary certificate supersedes the previous one rendering it void. This is signified by the DPE punching a hole in it. 2. The temporary certificate expires in 120 days and then you have nothing. The temporary can only be reissued by the FAA and not by the DPE. 3. The airman registry does not get updated until the new certificate has been processed, but that's neither here nor there because 61.3 says you must possess or have readily available a pilot certificate and you don't if the temporary has expired and the earlier certificate has been invalidated by punching a hole in it. So, you really need to get the certificate issued or the temporary extended to be legal. No one will ever know unless you have an accident or violation. Then there could be an issue with the FAA, and since insurance companies will go by the language of the policy, you would likely find yourself uninsured. Skip

90 degree fittings at or near the transducer are a no no. The manuals are very specific about straight runs through the transducer.

Could not agree with these more. Building a community as a goal in itself is completely the wrong goal, not to mention a doomed business strategy. You're an aircraft manufacturer, not a social network. I don't understand how as an owner I am supposed to feel supported by rolling out bizarre blogs bragging that other brands suck and a forum platform that, let's be honest, is going to be a ghost town most of the time. If having a forum is so critical to the brand, why didn't they buy MooneySpace and rebrand it? Social media is not what I think of when I think of good customer support. When I think of good customer support, I think of having the parts or answers I need, delivered in a reasonable amount of time, sold at a reasonable price. I think of innovative modifications that I can actually afford that add real value to my aircraft. I think of a new plane I can drool over that incorporates the latest innovations of the industry yet remains true to the Mooney brand, which has always stood for the best combination of speed and efficiency. Obviously marketing and lifestyle branding are a big part of it, just look at Cirrus. But it has to be tied to substance. Please spend your time on that instead of trying to be Mooney Facebook. The copy is embarrassing. I have no idea what that "Own It" nonsense is trying to say. Apparently "plane" and "aircraft" are different things, and one of them is Good and the other is Bad, because reasons. Poach someone from Cirrus's marketing department for Godsakes. I don't want to overreact to the mere launch of a website, but I am more concerned about Mooney's viability than I was before today. Tough crowd, eh?

I really hate to pile on, but, this is very amateurish. There are really simple errors that demonstrate a lack of attention to detail, is it "online" or "on-line", which do not bode well for conveying a leadership & credible position within a highly regulated industry such as aviation. But more to the point, I have no idea what the site is trying to do. It's really not obvious to me they're trying to support existing owners, they're not selling anything but shirts, and it really doesn't seem like they're trying to energize a secondary market. And I fully agree that any partner vs. build forum debate went the wrong direction. But really the killer to me is that they've lost any essence of what the brand stands for. I have no idea what that copy on the home page is saying. I don't fly a Mooney because it makes me feel like an "aviator", I fly one because they go fast on really low fuel burn. I bet many (most?) folks agree with something pretty close to that. It's a really functional benefit Mooney can own in the marketplace and it's got such a nice emotional attachment with the "Mooney Zoom", yet it's nowhere to be found. You see this a lot in product relaunches. Legacy brands get bought & sold and the essence of what made a brand great gets replaced by a newly minted MBAs impulsivity.

Reiff guy here. It rarely gets up to 30 (F) from the beginning of December to the middle of February where I live. So the Reiff rings and the two sump pads work great for the 60 mins or so it takes to get the whole thing up to 70. Only one consideration counts for me here. Time taken to get the engine up to acceptably warm.

It's just that it takes one to "know" one. OR I have been trained by Clarence @M20Doc. You pick..... But thanks Anthony.

If you ask Don Maxwell, he usually has a CFI or two on speed dial. If not, you want @Parker_Woodruff but he's in Dallas.

Bravo Jonny! Or maybe he should receive a standing Ovation! Possibly receive Acclaim for his efforts......... regardless, congratulations on a positive step forward for the Mooney brand.

Click and go!! https://mooney.com

I like it. A customer / community first approach is nice to see. I assume more details about what is on offer to buy will follow. The service center list looks like it is going through a website update but the contact info to the service centers is there. Perhaps its not made explicit enough, but I think Mooney has always sold parts through the MSCs.

Love that the "Speed Shop" is back. Gives my wife a chance to spend money on me!

Yup. And I wouldn’t recommend it unless you have extensive experience flying into busy Delta’s and Charlie’s and preferably instrument experience. They can sense hesitation in your voice so you gotta be on top of your game.

Don't know where you are based but if you are at a high altitude airport that will impact the high RPM numbers due to lower HP available. For your short airport DO check the RPM with another instrument (even a phone app would help) before you try flying.

Make sure you write down everything you try and the dates and times for a written record. Document everything, every phone call, every email (with copies and dates, etc Nothing beats a good paper trail

Out of order but there you have it!

Had some fun around L52 with Harry Moyer in his gorgeous E model...... go Harry! And yes, friends of Harry have submitted to Guinness for him being oldest flying solo pilot! Let’s see. Fun! Greaser of a landing Harry!! He flies that Mooney like he flew the P-40.......affirmative action! BD87A70D-2FBF-4FF5-8308-113C25F280C9.MOV D9D48E73-64FF-4B23-A02C-B99A203CC7B1.MOV

Some people just leave theirs plugged into a Thermo Cube where it turns it on when it's 35 F and turns it off when its 45. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermo-Cube-Thermostatically-Controlled-Outlet-TC-3-Cold-Weather-On-35-Off-at-45/303791668479?hash=item46bb64fcff:g:X8IAAOSwFvVfxp36

Can I just post before during and after pics of my bank account?

Well not a Mooney flight but a great flight nonetheless. Flew in a Grob G109. Motor Glider or powered glider. So the flight was "officially hands off controls...." for me, unofficially/officially it was pretty awesome. Demonstrated some maneuvers flew over the practice areas and got quite the look at the greater Tokyo area. Was pretty clear could see the base of Mt Fuji, Skytree and Tokyo out in the distance. Flying is a different experience in Japan. So I went for a flight previously at a different airfield down the street from this one it was kind of a bigger business that wasn't all I'd hoped it would be but fun also. I spent some time chatting with the chief instructor then came time to fly. The instructor/PIC and I had a quick brief then off we went. Off the ground in about 400ft and climb out at 60knts 600FPM. Got up to altitude and got to turn off the engine and just soar for a bit work on airspeed/ maneuvers. Pretty cool and calm day almost no wind and no thermals. Started the engine did a semi low pass/ go around then climbed back up a few more maneuvers, then a power off landing come in high slight slip throw out some spoilers/ air brakes. After hanging out for a bit longer and swapping stories I was invited back tomorrow to go check out the shop and "factory" 2 separate places. Should be a good time. Both instructors said they had Mooney time and conversation flowed. I got to admit it was pretty cool with the engine off, but I told the PIC " this is about the only engine out situation Id like to be in." Didn't do very well in the picture/video taking but got a few. If I get the video(s) to upload will update post.

I have 3D-printed fuel vent covers using flex material, they perfectly fit on my Ovation. I have designed the cover with a small breather hole, about 2mm, maybe 1/16" in size. That allows some air exchange but it is definitely not enough for flight operations with the cover on. So, I have printed a small storage board also which is glued to the back wall of my luggage compartment. It holds both fuel vent covers and the pitot heat cover... In order to not forget to remove these covers I have added a line to both the outside- and regular check list. Just before starting the engine I turn my head and look to the back. If I see 3 red tags, all of the covers are removed. In case anyone is interested and wants to print it, I have posted the parts on thingiverse. Thingiverse Download Or if you are in my neck of the woods, come by my house in Munich for a chat and I'll print them for you. (After Covid19 has eased of...) Happy landings !

I'm no statistics professor, but ... I play on on tv. I've taught statistics. Actually this last semester all of my teaching was on tv...er...zoom. Next semester too. Anyway were you talking about me? Im a math prof, sometimes people say data science sometimes machine learning. Stats is its own thing too but not what I would call myself. And actuarial sciences is its own thing and there are profs of actuarial science - which is a topic of applied probability and statistics, applied to develop risk management in a business setting. Its a combination applied degree to business. My father in law btw was a president of a mo Anyway, I will try and say something mathy. P(expensive incident) probability of an incident across the population. (For now lets say EI) P(EI | person's experience is low). (a conditional prob ability statement you read as probability of expensive incident "given" persons' experience is low). P( EI | person's experience is low, person is young ) (read that comma as an "and" so this says probability of EI given experience low and person young). P( nutty attitude | person is young) < P(nutty attitude | person is old). (just guessing - I have no data - these are questions to query). P( poor skills | low experience). P( low experience | person is young ) < P( low experience | person is old ) (again just guessing - but I would guess that 80 year population is mostly well "seasoned" pilots rather than 80 year old freshly minted 40 hour pilots); P( diminishing skills | person is young) < P(diminishing skills | person is old ) (...I bet - without data - old people forget stuff more likely at some point...what were we talking about again?) P( expensive incident | age )= P(incident | skills) P(skills | age) + P(incident | bad attitudes ) P( bad attitudes | age) (assuming independence). and other factors accordingly, I guess would need to be broken up into appropriate conditional probability statements, and that doesn't say anything about if there are data sets that are sufficiently rich to help decide questions. I dont know anything about that. I imagine they must already break it up into dozens of factors. Folklore is that most old pilots are wise and experienced, but eventually with age, skills and thinking speed decrease and will overwhelm the former. But at least for a time, wisdom and experience prevails over fast reactions and quick thinking of young, perhaps less experienced and/or perhaps too bold young pilots.

Oh, I know it's a lot brighter. Just not worth $450 more. If I flew at night I might well find the extra illumination worth it.