100 vs 15-50 oil

[TheTurtle]

I have a case of 100weight for my oil change given to me by my flight school owner and IA.  I just noticed the last oil change was done with 15-50.  My school runs all 100w in everything.  We are in socal and ill never be any place cold.  Can I use 100w without a problem?

[Andy95W]

Yes.  Maybe consider CamGuard.

[rbridges]

W100 is actually 50 weight oil. I think it's lower temp limit is 40F. I used it for years but switched to 15/50 for the winter. 

[Jim Peace]

15 minutes ago, N1395W said:

Yes.  Maybe consider CamGuard.

Oh boy here comes the thread explosion........

[gsxrpilot]

I use Aeroshell100W Plus year round here in Austin, TX.

[Openwheeler3]

41 minutes ago, Jim Peace said:

Oh boy here comes the thread explosion........

What's camguard? JK...

[macosxuser]

Yes, 100W (Winterized) is fine. They are even backwards compatible to the point that you can add a quart of 100W to 15w50 without ill effects. Depending on your flying habits, there are plenty of reasons to use or not use Camguard, 100Plus, 15w50, or Philips XC. All the differences have to to with additive packages. I have recently switched from 100w in everything to Phlips X/C in everything, my cost/benefit analysis brought that on. I fly weekly though.

[TheTurtle]

put in half a bottle of camguard and 7 qts of 100w.  Thanks guys!

[Bob_Belville]

I use 100W with CamGuard. When I open a case of oil I add 1.6 ounces of CG to each quart and mark the bottles to indicated the CG. At oil change I fill with 6 quarts of pre mixed oil and carry a qt or 2 in the plane for adding on trips.

[DXB]

5 minutes ago, Bob_Belville said:

I use 100W with CamGuard. When I open a case of oil I add 1.6 ounces of CG to each quart and mark the bottles to indicated the CG. At oil change I fill with 6 quarts of pre mixed oil and carry a qt or 2 in the plane for adding on trips.

That's a great idea - didn't realize there was enough extra space in each quart bottle for the CG?  I pointlessly carry a 50cc conical tube around in the plane to measure the Camguard each time I add a quart. 

 

[Bob_Belville]

Just now, DXB said:

That's a great idea - didn't realize there was enough extra space in each quart bottle for the CG?  I pointlessly carry a 50cc conical tube around in the plane to measure the Camguard each time I add a quart. 

 

I use a cheap plastic syringe to quickly add the recommended 1.6oz. Something like this. 

https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Reusable-Syringe-Nutrient-Measurement/dp/B00KIBYN4A

[Marauder]

I use 100W with CamGuard. When I open a case of oil I add 1.6 ounces of CG to each quart and mark the bottles to indicated the CG. At oil change I fill with 6 quarts of pre mixed oil and carry a qt or 2 in the plane for adding on trips.

I do the same thing. I also add "PGNA" on the label. Just to remind myself it is "Peter Garmin Not Approved".


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[Guitarmaster]

The engine will tell you if it likes it or not. Case in point. I was using w100 and was burning about 1qt every 9 hours or so. I switched to Plillips 20-50XC. Oil burn went to 1 qt every 16ish hours. My engine seems to like the Phillips better. Some don't.

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[flyer7324]

Do it the easy way. Just add 8oz at each oil change (1/2 bottle with 6 qts Phillips 20/50).


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[ArtVandelay]

For those who fly regularly, does CG provide any benefit?

[TTaylor]

46 minutes ago, teejayevans said:

For those who fly regularly, does CG provide any benefit?

Please don't feed the beast .  Do a google search on CG and MS.  

[Bob_Belville]

Ed Kollin, the CG guru, presented at Summit again this morning. I think his PP which has a lot of data will be available on the Mooney Summit web site.

[Bob_Belville]

On 10/1/2016 at 11:26 PM, DXB said:

That's a great idea - didn't realize there was enough extra space in each quart bottle for the CG?  I pointlessly carry a 50cc conical tube around in the plane to measure the Camguard each time I add a quart. 

 

Ed Kollin (CamGuard) does it the same way except that after the first quart he simply adds CG to the other 11 quarts to match the level to quart 1.

[mike_elliott]

18 hours ago, teejayevans said:

For those who fly regularly, does CG provide any benefit?

Ed Kollin presented the science of lubrication at the Mooney Summit. The naysayers were silenced or already know so much about it and other subjects they didn't show

 

[PTK]

Aeroshell 15W50 year round. Change oil religiously q 30-35 hours or 4 months. Airplane lives in NJ where temps range from 15° F to 90° F on average.

[geoffb]

Mine seems to run smoothest on 100Plus.  Doesn't seem to run as nice on 15-50.

[pinerunner]

I use 100 in the summer and 50-15 in the winter. If I have 100 in I preheat even if it's just a little cold, let's say if it's less than 55 F. I use camguard if I have the Aeroshell version without additves and if I get W100Plus I just use it straight. I checked a Busch article and he said they use the same additives anyway.

So far so good.

[cliffy]

No one mentioned MMO  :-) :-) :-)    Just a chuckle thrown in that's all!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program

[jetdriven]

4 hours ago, pinerunner said:

I use 100 in the summer and 50-15 in the winter. If I have 100 in I preheat even if it's just a little cold, let's say if it's less than 55 F. I use camguard if I have the Aeroshell version without additves and if I get W100Plus I just use it straight. I checked a Busch article and he said they use the same additives anyway.

So far so good.

Camguard has 25 times more additive than the aeroshell + stuff. Also, camguard is much more than Triphenyl Phosphate. 

[PTK]

2 hours ago, jetdriven said:

Camguard has 25 times more additive than the aeroshell + stuff. Also, camguard is much more than Triphenyl Phosphate. 

Whatever...

It's a matter of trust. Personally I place my trust to take care of my engine in Aeroshell. Produced by a global petrochemicals leader established over 100 years ago with 265 billion$ annual revenue. 

They know what they're doing.