Recognition Lights (This is how it done)

[GeeBee]

18 minutes ago, Marc_B said:

Wig wag stock halogen recog lights sounding more and more appealing!  

That is what I did. Installed a MaxPulse system. I figure if they ever go LED it will be that much better flashing.

 

 

[carusoam]

A recog light that works… AND doesn’t melt the lens in front of it…

I loved the recog lights for what they do…

Hate using the recog lights for what they do…

 

At my small airport where recog lights are good to use…

The after landing and shut down checklists are done simultaneously….

 

If anyone wants a good distraction test…. If you haven’t melted a lens with a recog light yet….  You pass! 

 

PP thoughts only, not a mechanic…

Best regards,

-a-

[OSUAV8TER]

11 hours ago, GeeBee said:

That is what I did. Installed a MaxPulse system. I figure if they ever go LED it will be that much better flashing.

 

 

Those tiny recognition lights on your wingtips are just too small to really provide any meaningful light for landing or taxi. They are best served to pulse and be used for day or night time recognition. I carry the MaxPulse system in my online store and I pulse my Bonanza's wingtip lights for recognition. This is the STC that I developed for Barons and Bonanzas but we have more real estate to install existing WAT recognition lights in there. Just a fatter wing.

[INA201]

Putting Aveo Ultra Galactica on the tips and Aveo Posistrobe Titania on the tail as we speak. Pirep sometime in the future. 

[PT20J]

2 hours ago, INA201 said:

Putting Aveo Ultra Galactica on the tips and Aveo Posistrobe Titania on the tail as we speak. Pirep sometime in the future. 

Nice. How are you dealing with the Gear Down annunciator dimming?

[Jetrn]

@Irmin sorry for the delayed response my plane was in for an avionics upgrade. Here is a picture. A friend 3D printed the housing in carbon fiber impregnated plastic, iirc it’s rated to 189 deg. The cad file was from some one here on Mooneyspace everything fit perfectly. The components and concept were on another thread under ovation recogn. 

[Irmin]

[mention=46623]Irmin[/mention] sorry for the delayed response my plane was in for an avionics upgrade. Here is a picture. A friend 3D printed the housing in carbon fiber impregnated plastic, iirc it’s rated to 189 deg. The cad file was from some one here on Mooneyspace everything fit perfectly. The components and concept were on another thread under ovation recogn. 

This looks pretty awesome. Mine, unfortunately look like this:
I bought it like this, so I need solution. For flying it home, I guess it will be high speed tape…


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[Guest]

10 hours ago, Irmin said:

This looks pretty awesome. Mine, unfortunately look like this:
I bought it like this, so I need solution. For flying it home, I guess it will be high speed tape…


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I should have that lens in stock.

Clarence

[Irmin]

I should have that lens in stock.
Clarence

Any chance for the perspex as well?
Irmin


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[A64Pilot]

On 2/24/2022 at 10:03 PM, larryb said:

I got pretty close.

So which light is that? I can’t 3D print but could probably make the box out of metal, but need a source of a bright LED that will fit

[larryb]

Wheelen LR11 removed from police light bars and sold on ebay.

 

I think it would be a bit difficult to fabricate this out of metal. 

 

 

 

There is a big thread about it here:

 

 

[A64Pilot]

Actually if everything in front of the light mounting plate wasn’t there it’s not difficult at all.

‘I don’t have any 3D printing assets

[rbp]

On 3/15/2022 at 9:43 AM, A64Pilot said:

So which light is that? I can’t 3D print but could probably make the box out of metal, but need a source of a bright LED that will fit

You might try getting a quote from shapeways

 

https://www.shapeways.com/

[GeeBee]

Surprisingly, many places have 3D printers for rent. My daughter runs a public library system and they have 3 printers you can use yourself. They charge you by the inch of material consumed. Might check around.

 

[A64Pilot]

interesting would someone mind sharing the CAM file if I use the term correctly, or is anyone who has a printer willing to make a few bucks and print two?

The LED’s are readily available on Ebay and I have a spare Maxpulse in my locker, I think wig wag lights enhance safety at least as much as strobes

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[larryb]

I am willing to share my stl files for the design, as I have done with two other members who have contacted me privately. Just send me a PM. I don't want to be in the airplane parts business, so I can't print them for others and sell them. The project wound up being a fair bit more complex than I thought when I started. The modules produce quite a bit of heat that needs to be managed. If you have a 24V airplane then you'll need a voltage regulator. If you want it to plug into the existing Mooney plugs nicely you'll need matching TE Mate-N-Lok connectors and pins sourced from an electronic supply house. You should use aircraft grade Tefzel wire. You need to print the parts in ABS or some other high temp plastic to handle the heat. This was my first ABS part and I had to build an enclosure for the printer in order to get parts that were not warped and split. 

[carusoam]

14 hours ago, larryb said:

I am willing to share my stl files for the design, as I have done with two other members who have contacted me privately. Just send me a PM. I don't want to be in the airplane parts business, so I can't print them for others and sell them. The project wound up being a fair bit more complex than I thought when I started. The modules produce quite a bit of heat that needs to be managed. If you have a 24V airplane then you'll need a voltage regulator. If you want it to plug into the existing Mooney plugs nicely you'll need matching TE Mate-N-Lok connectors and pins sourced from an electronic supply house. You should use aircraft grade Tefzel wire. You need to print the parts in ABS or some other high temp plastic to handle the heat. This was my first ABS part and I had to build an enclosure for the printer in order to get parts that were not warped and split. 

This evening’s Awesome MSer award has been bestowed upon Larry!

For sharing great details!

Go Larry!

Go MS!

 

Best regards,

-a-

[Jetrn]

It took my friend about 6 hours to 3d print LarryB design for both housings. As mentioned earlier he was also concerned about heat and warpage. Thank you larry once again for the design and looks like it comes right out of the factory.

[hoodun]

Im new to aviation and Im finding that about 50% of the discussions involve certification bs. There are too many people with linear thinking who abide solely by the wording even if it defies logic. The FAA knows there are issues which is why they leave a lot to the discretion of the mechanics to sign things off. 

As a new airplane owner I find the real challenge is finding intelligent mechanics that can see the big picture, understand the bureaucracy, and put SAFETY before anything else, and I believe the FAA would agree with what Im saying. 

LED bulbs will ALWAYS be safer than the $3 certified incandescent. Even if its a home depot bulb. Technology has rocketed past bureaucracy. It only takes a middle school education to understand this yet these hard-lined bureaucrat(idiot) mechanics cant see this. Luckily these type of mechanics are the 50%.

I always give a dummy test when I talk to a mechanic. So far, in a year, only once has a person failed and it was an ex-attorney.

[Yetti]

On 3/10/2022 at 1:07 AM, Jetrn said:

@Irmin sorry for the delayed response my plane was in for an avionics upgrade. Here is a picture. A friend 3D printed the housing in carbon fiber impregnated plastic, iirc it’s rated to 189 deg. The cad file was from some one here on Mooneyspace everything fit perfectly. The components and concept were on another thread under ovation recogn. 

Ya so about that 3 LED white panel from Wheelen that is the same LED panel they use in police and fire Light bars.   The light bar I saw it on was a Freedom.    https://lightbarparts.com/products/whelen-freedom-lightbar-pair-of-white-lr11-takedown-and-alley-light-assemblies?variant=39842630762631&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic

 

[OSUAV8TER]

If you guys are not interested in creating a whole new wingtip assembly for a different light, I now carry the LED direct replacement for the 70303 halogen bulbs that melt your wingtip lenses. You pick the LED lamp that corresponds with your ship power, nothing to do with the resistor that is found in a lot of Mooneys. So if your aircraft is 28V, you need the 28V version. 

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-14V-Recognition-Light_p_140.html <-- 14V models

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-28V-Recognition-Light_p_337.html <-- 28V models

 

[Niko182]

On 3/10/2022 at 12:19 AM, Irmin said:

This looks pretty awesome. Mine, unfortunately look like this:
I bought it like this, so I need solution. For flying it home, I guess it will be high speed tape…


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Aveo Crystal conforma wingtips.

[OSUAV8TER]

6 minutes ago, Niko182 said:

Aveo Crystal conforma wingtips.

This is how some Aveo products wear over time because they use(d) a poured epoxy for their lenses that you cannot replace. Whelen uses a replaceable polycarbonate lens, if it has one. I carry them too. Think about how you will support your airplane 10, 20, 30, 40 years from now. 

[FredG]

On 7/1/2023 at 4:05 PM, OSUAV8TER said:

If you guys are not interested in creating a whole new wingtip assembly for a different light, I now carry the LED direct replacement for the 70303 halogen bulbs that melt your wingtip lenses. You pick the LED lamp that corresponds with your ship power, nothing to do with the resistor that is found in a lot of Mooneys. So if your aircraft is 28V, you need the 28V version. 

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-14V-Recognition-Light_p_140.html <-- 14V models

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-28V-Recognition-Light_p_337.html <-- 28V models

 

This is what mine looks like. (supplied by James by the way).

 

[Jetman]

Ovation in annual and landing lights not working.  Found burnt wire (Lndg lite) and circuit breaker did not open.  anyone ever have issues

with the landing/taxi light switch or wiring?  Surprised the breaker didn't pop!