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Flaps for take off

Oscar Avalle

By Oscar Avalle
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Flaps for Take Off  

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  1. 1. Do you use flaps for take off?

    • Always
      49
    • Sometimes under special circunstances
      12
    • Never
      4

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carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

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Always following the POH of the Long Body...

Because it has extensive data that can be followed.

The 65C came with an owners manual with very little data. Later POHs still were missing the amount of data required to support the pilot.

Best regards,

-a-

orionflt Veteran

orionflt

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I have a flight manual not a POH and there is almost no data except basic numbers and general info, but it does specifically state flaps at 15 deg for take off.

Brian

Oscar Avalle Grand Master

Oscar Avalle

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Oscar brought out a newly refreshed dead horse for us to beat!

Best regards,

-a-

 

Yeah... but look at the Vintaje Mooney section... we have been beating a decomposed horse for quite some time... so who knows may be now we can put him (the horse) back in the coffin...

 

Oscar

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gsxrpilot Grand Master

gsxrpilot

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Who really cares what someone else does with their airplane, for any reason other than mild curiosity? There is always more than one right way to do something.

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Hank Grand Master

Hank

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And we can all agree, that all POHs and Owners Manuals do not agree . . . thus the eternal debate between those of us who follow our own particular "book," which may disagree on various points with other years' "book," even for the same model . . . . . After all, it's not rocket science, it's just low-speed aerodynamics.  :D

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BigTex Mentor

BigTex

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I always take off with flaps on st. Patties day!

And I always lower mine to the knees which everyone knows as the takeoff position! :P

scottfromiowa Grand Master

scottfromiowa

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Who really cares what someone else does with their airplane, for any reason other than mild curiosity? There is always more than one right way to do something.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Let the beatings begin you heretic!!!!!

gsxrpilot Grand Master

gsxrpilot

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Well you can put me in the camp with those who believe the POH, Owners Manual and most other paperwork that comes with the airplane was produced with the primary purpose of fending off the lawyers.  Secondarily it provides information of how the companies test pilots like to fly.  Beyond that, it's interesting reading.  Now I don't profess to be a professional test pilot, but then neither do the many thousands of pilots out there flying aircraft marked Experimental.  And they seem to do all right.  As Hank said, "its not rocket science, it's just low speed aerodynamics."  And it's really pretty simple. 

 

Personally, I like to use flaps on takeoff but only because I believe the shorter the take off roll, the longer the tires last.  But certainly not because a Mooney test pilot tells me I must.  I'm more of a "seat of the pants pilot" and somehow, someway I'm sure that corresponds to the issue of standing or sitting to pee? :-)

Jeff_S Grand Master

Jeff_S

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There was a missing category in the poll.  Mine would have been "Most of the time except when I forget."  I have missed the flaps a few times on takeoff and then I wonder why it took so long to rotate. The myster is solved when I try to raise the flaps and the switch is already up.

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201er Grand Master

201er

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There was a missing category in the poll.  Mine would have been "Most of the time except when I forget."  I have missed the flaps a few times on takeoff and then I wonder why it took so long to rotate. The myster is solved when I try to raise the flaps and the switch is already up.

This is why it's a damn good reason to "always use flaps" so that it becomes a solid habit. This way the one day you REALLY needed them, you have them from habit.

fantom Grand Master

fantom

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Not using flaps on takeoff is like...

 

leaning 50 rop

not using camguard

peeing sitting down

 

not washing or changing your stinky old cargo pants for ten days :ph34r:

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