Aspen2013 Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) The tire is rubbing on the inner gear door (you can barely see the shiny area on the gear door) I just noticed this. Never have seen this before. It appears that there is plenty of clearance from the inner gear door. Its happening to both sides. I usually tap the brakes before retracting gear after takeoff. I follow gear extension/retraction speeds. Thought maybe air is pushing the gear door toward tire during landing?? Has anyone seen this before? Edited July 11, 2020 by Aspen2013 clarify Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Are your brake lines rubbing on it? Quote
Aspen2013 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Posted July 11, 2020 No just the shiny area on the inner gear door. About the closet part to the tire. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Get a GoPro camera or cheap knockoff, mount it on the tie down or sticky mount to underside of wing, take a couple of laps around the pattern, review video. It should answer your questions. Can also try mounting on tail tie down. Quote
StevenL757 Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Check how many washers are present between the inside of the gear door and the lower part of the strut (circled in blue). Typically - depending on how the doors are rigged when the airplane is on jacks - there are usually between 3 and 5 washers present here to provide adequate spacing. My guess is that your doors are fitting too tight against the bottom of the aircraft when the airplane is jacked up and the gear is retracted. Ask your A&P to check this fit, and add washers (AN960-416) as needed. Keep in mind that each side may require a different number of washers, as the fit may be different between the left and right doors. 1 Quote
philiplane Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 landing firmly, and with under-inflated tires, causes the tire to bulge outward and contact the door. When a tire squishes upon landing, the resulting bulge does not instantly disappear. It travels as the tire rotates. 3 Quote
RLCarter Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Have you recently had any work done on the doors or wheels? Quote
Aspen2013 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Since it just started that may be a great first step is checking air pressure. If that bulge travels around before it dissipates it wouldn’t take much of a bulge to close that gap. no work has been done on the landing gear Edited July 11, 2020 by Aspen2013 Update Quote
GeeBee Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 You want to be checking your tire pressures regularly. Quote
Aspen2013 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Report Posted July 12, 2020 I do check tire pressures regularly (Qtrly) especially as temps decrease in winter and add a little air. They checked in today at 38 psi left and 40 right. Brought them back up to 42 psi. flew again and no difference. Put a little white grease so I can see if it rubbed. Next I will pull it around on the ground with tug and see if it is on the ground type thing or after wheels leave the ground. 1 1 Quote
carusoam Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 Looks awfully close... If tire pressure is making them rub... Compare to any other Mooney around... Now I have to wonder if mine does the same thing, without me noticing... See if @M20Doc has some guidance on the normal distance between the tire and gear door... Expect rubbing is not a good thing as that would also damage a tire... Best regards, -a- Quote
Guest Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 Others are already on to the items I’d be reviewing. Tire pressure and mis adjusted doors. Clarence Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted July 13, 2020 Report Posted July 13, 2020 I check the pressure before every flight. I just look at the tire. I can tell you the pressure +- 2 PSI. If it is low I plug in the compressor and air them up. Quote
Aspen2013 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Report Posted July 13, 2020 Well hopefully everyone does a visual. They might not get within 2 psi. That’s pretty good. I definitely can tell when low. Helped a buddy out today who has Cessna and he had been missing a low tire on preflight. Asked him what he thought. I guess he said maybe a little low. It turned out to be 16 psi! Not sure everyone can tell ? If you get a good sight picture of normal then it becomes easier. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 13, 2020 Report Posted July 13, 2020 If you move the plane without a tug, you’ll know when tire pressures are low. Quote
PT20J Posted July 13, 2020 Report Posted July 13, 2020 Standard tubes need air monthly or more often. I switched to Michelin Airstops and they only need 1 - 2 psi every few months. Skip 3 Quote
MooneyMitch Posted July 13, 2020 Report Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, PT20J said: Standard tubes need air monthly or more often. I switched to Michelin Airstops and they only need 1 - 2 psi every few months. Skip Agree. My experience as well . Quote
Hank Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, PT20J said: Standard tubes need air monthly or more often. I switched to Michelin Airstops and they only need 1 - 2 psi every few months. Skip Yep, me three. Great product, except the tubes cost as much as the tires! 1 Quote
flysamo Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 who makes hub caps with holes for air filling thru hub cap Quote
PT20J Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, flysamo said: who makes hub caps with holes for air filling thru hub cap https://flywat.com/products/hubba-hubba-cap-gen-2-for-6-aircraft-wheels?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-M6Z44DN6gIVVh6tBh0UdQEHEAAYASAAEgL7OPD_BwE Quote
philiplane Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 4:21 PM, Aspen2013 said: I do check tire pressures regularly (Qtrly) especially as temps decrease in winter and add a little air. They checked in today at 38 psi left and 40 right. Brought them back up to 42 psi. flew again and no difference. Put a little white grease so I can see if it rubbed. Next I will pull it around on the ground with tug and see if it is on the ground type thing or after wheels leave the ground. The rubbing is only going to occur with a combination of low tire pressure and a firm landing. Or normal tire pressure, and an aircraft carrier arrival... Quote
Yetti Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 58 minutes ago, flysamo said: who makes hub caps with holes for air filling thru hub cap A greely hole punch will make your current ones work. Quote
OR75 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 the fairing looks way too close to the tire. may want to the check washers and if it was installed correctly Needs to be fixed Quote
Aspen2013 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Posted July 15, 2020 Tire pressure not low. Exactly 42psi. No carrier style landings. That last landing was a greaser. Not saying they all are but that one was. Going to check washers. Probably be jacking it up soon. Quote
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