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Ok it's time to get serious. I do not need two airplanes.  

2000 Mooney M20R Ovation with 310hp STC, Air Conditioning, Great Panel, etc, etc. 1200TT

I had it listed for 239,900, then 225,900,  now $217,900. PM or call me if you have any questions. (210) 643-4161

Description

This aircraft is complete with nothing left to chance. ADS-B Out Compliance. Glass Panel (Dual Aspen) Pre-wired for ADS-B in on the Aspens. JPI-930 TSO Engine Instrumentation (replacing the Moritz Gauges – at a cost of about $10,000). 310hp ‘Ovation 3’ Upgrade. Air Conditioning. A recent complete TOP Overhaul. Skywatch Active Traffic. Add the numbers up. This plane has well over half of the asking price in the cost of upgrades!!! A plane to simply buy and fly!!
Airframe
1200 Hours Total Time Since New.
Engine(s)
1200 Hours Total Time Since New.
200 Hours Since Complete TOP Overhaul.
(Continental IO-550-G, 310 HP, 2000 TBO)
Prop Specs
900 Hours Total Time Since New (3-Blade Hartzell top Prop Conversion).
Avionics/Radios
Avidyne IFD-540 WAAS GPS / Nav / Comm / ILS Receiver / Color Map #1 with Bluetooth and WiFi. (Soon with Avidyne 10.2 free software upgrade this will feed the Avidyne IFD100 App)
Avidyne IFD-440 WAAS GPS / Nav / Comm / ILS Receiver / Color Map #2 with Bluetooth and WiFi
Avidyne AXP-340 Transponder (Mode S, ADS-B Out).
Aspen Dual Glass (PFD and MFD), Prewired for ADS-B.
King KFC-225 Digital AutoPilot with Altitude Preselect and Flight Director.
L-3 (Formerly BF Goodrich) SKY-497 ‘SkyWatch’ Active Traffic Avoidance.
L-3 WX-500 Stormscope (Displays on both Moving Maps).
JP Instruments EDM-930 TSO Primary Instrumentation.
PS Engineering PMA-7000 Audio Panel / Intercomm.
Additional Equipment
Cold Blowing Factory Air Conditioning - summer is coming soon!, Factory Oxygen, Full Electric Aircraft (no Vacuum System to break), 4 place Bose Interface, Speed Brakes, Rotating Beacon, Wing Sight-Fuel Guages, Dual Batteries, Dual Brakes.
Exterior
Phantom Grey over Silver with Red Trim.
Interior
Medium Grey Perforated Leather Seats and Grey Carpet. Black Leather Covered Yokes. Light Grey Ultrasuede Covered Side Panels and Grey Tweed Covered Upper Panels and Headliner. Front Seats are covered with removable Sheepskins.
Inspection Status
Next Annual Due December 2016. IFR Certification Due . Good Maintenance History. New Landing Gear Shock Discs. New Starter and Starter Adapter. New Concorde Batteries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted

I got to tell you that I would have jumped all over this plane when I was buying a few years ago. Lowering the price will sell it. But I think the number of people who are going to realistically buy a $200k plane are few and far between. It may just come down to when the right guy comes along. Best of luck. 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, PMcClure said:

I got to tell you that I would have jumped all over this plane when I was buying a few years ago. Lowering the price will sell it. But I think the number of people who are going to realistically buy a $200k plane are few and far between. It may just come down to when the right guy comes along. Best of luck. 

 

 

11 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

It's always the price . . . lol

 

I think when you get into 6 figure planes, it does dwindle the # of buyers significantly.  At my local airport, planes like mine (vintage under 100k) are the norm.  There are a few twins in the corporate hangar, but only a few single engines that I would consider as nice as yours.

 

Posted (edited)

I'll rent it from you, you know, to help you cover some of the upgrades for the new TLS......... And to keep it running. Plane that sits is no bueno.

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Along the lines of what Robb said above I know if I went to sell my bravo I would get murdered, particularly after a new engine and avionics upgrades and changing out lots of components. I take solace in the fact that I think I now have a plane that is as good or better than new at less than half the cost, but I know the market (unfortunately) does not value that like I do.

Posted
9 hours ago, Bravoman said:

Along the lines of what Robb said above I know if I went to sell my bravo I would get murdered, particularly after a new engine and avionics upgrades and changing out lots of components. I take solace in the fact that I think I now have a plane that is as good or better than new at less than half the cost, but I know the market (unfortunately) does not value that like I do.

I'm in the process of a 40 amu overhaul...can't agree more with the above.  I'm curiously watching current sales but planning on flying the wings off the one I have.

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That said, it is unbelievable that Lance's plane is not flying off the shelf at that price given how beautiful it is and what somebody would be getting for that money.

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Posted
Just now, PTK said:

Just curious why you decided on Aspen and Avidyne rather than the G500 and GTN route.

Peter, do you think that is a factor for potential buyers? What do you estimate the difference is cost was vs. Garmin?

Posted
16 minutes ago, Bob_Belville said:

Peter, do you think that is a factor for potential buyers? What do you estimate the difference is cost was vs. Garmin?

Yes, I think it is a huge factor. 

I don't know what the difference was but am curious as to the thought process.

 

Posted
4 hours ago, PTK said:

Just curious why you decided on Aspen and Avidyne rather than the G500 and GTN route.

I realize that by answering this question I may be taking the bait and the trap may spring shut at any moment but here goes . . .     :)

The Aspen decision was made by the previous owner in a complete panel upgrade he did to replace the always failing Moritz engine gauges with the reliable JPI 930. Honestly I was skeptical about the Aspens and asking the same question at first. I had very little time behind the G500/600 and no time behind the Aspens.  But after flying for a year and a half behind the Aspens I wouldn't hesitate to make the same decision he did. The Aspen menus are more intuitive, the ways that you can set up the screens more flexible. It may look smaller, but the resolution is sharp and I have never had a problem reading anything on the screens. It is a very well designed system. I'm sure the G500/600 is well designed too but now after flying with the Aspens, in my opinion, I think you get more flexibility for the installed cost. Here's an intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmwoyeQXWlo

Regarding the Avidyne decison, I was the one who replaced the Garmin 530W and 430W with the Avidyne 540/440. The Garmins were 15 years old and nothing lasts forever. For virtually no install labor cost I have a huge leap in technology and ease of use. By the time I sold my 530/430 last year the total upgrade cost was less than $10000. Of course adding the AXP 340 ADS-B-out transponder was in addition to that. I am still learning new things that make it much easier. I had nothing against the 530/430 but I continue to marvel at the 540/440. When I was deciding on what to put in the TLS that I bought recently, the decision was easy - I put a 540 in. In time if Avidyne offers a reasonable upgrade, I'll pull that out for a 550. Their upcoming 10.2 software with free synthetic vision and their IFD100 iPad app is a game changer and leapfrogs them well ahead of the GTN series, in my opinion. They listen to the customer and implement changes that make sense for real world flying. For informed potential prospects for N312D this upgrade would be a huge plus over having a Garmin 530/430. If ypu are still in doubt, spend an hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXvMS0prgXg&feature=youtu.be

 

I would appreciate only responses to this from people who have spent time flying behind Aspens and Avidynes. Anything else is theory . . 

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Posted
14 hours ago, PTK said:

Even better would be responses from folks who have flown behind Aspens and/or Avidynes and Garmin. 

It certainly appears to be a fine airplane. Good luck with the sale.

Thanks for the kind words. I agree completely that the best responses would be from those that have experience with both.

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20 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

 

 

I would appreciate only responses to this from people who have spent time flying behind Aspens and Avidynes. Anything else is theory . . 

In theory, this beautiful plane should have sold by now. :( 

Posted
2 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

Thanks for the kind words. I agree completely that the best responses would be from those that have experience with both.

I do, and your setup is fantastic, far better than the tech of yesteryear.

Posted

I have been attempting to upgrade from my J and Cessna 180 to a plane of this caliber. Buying is easy, selling not so much !

Paul

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