carl Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 6 hours ago, jrwilson said: I think that was sarcasm. I hope at least... im so sorry . but it is not sarcasm . even in a commercial airliner i hate it. i love climbout and.approach. and close to.trees but i really hate alttitude . and ice . thats another story . Quote
carl Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 6 hours ago, jrwilson said: I think that was sarcasm. I hope at least... im so sorry . but it is not sarcasm . even in a commercial airliner i hate it. i love climbout and.approach. and close to.trees but i really hate alttitude . and ice . thats another story . Quote
carl Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 1 hour ago, aviatoreb said: I timed a climb last winter from my home field KPTD - MSL 470ft, I timed the climb to 17,000ft in under 13 minutes. Can't wait to see what my new prop can do this winter. I went to 25,000 once and 23 a few times, 21 several times, but generally 19 and below. Often to 17 though. wow . great idea . time to climb challenge . here is the plan . from your home airport . from the end of the runway . brakes off to 10,000 feet . how long does it take ? ill do it ! carl Quote
DonMuncy Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Just now, carl said: im so sorry . but it is not sarcasm . even in a commercial airliner i hate it. i love climbout and.approach. and close to.trees but i really hate alttitude . and ice . thats another story . Carl, I understand. When I started training, I never went over 3000 ft until I acclimated. But you will be well served by acclimating as soon as possible. Altitude is your best friend if an emergency arises. 2 Quote
aviatoreb Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 30 minutes ago, carl said: wow . great idea . time to climb challenge . here is the plan . from your home airport . from the end of the runway . brakes off to 10,000 feet . how long does it take ? ill do it ! carl Let's do it! Maybe we need a new thread? Maybe we should keep several times? 5k, 10k, 12k, 15k? Quote
jrwilson Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 39 minutes ago, carl said: im so sorry . but it is not sarcasm . even in a commercial airliner i hate it. i love climbout and.approach. and close to.trees but i really hate alttitude . and ice . thats another story . Like the movie Planes? Dusty crop hopper, afraid of heights, despite being a plane... Life imitating art? Or trolling? Silliness, either way. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 ABQ to PHX BTW, service ceiling goes up if you are below max gross, a J goes To 23K if at 2300lbs. At least in theory, I would not try it during summertime. I was limited by CHTs, could not climb at Vy Quote
carl Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 7 hours ago, jrwilson said: 45 minutes ago, don.muncy said: Carl, I understand. When I started training, I never went over 3000 ft until I acclimated. But you will be well served by acclimating as soon as possible. Altitude is your best friend if an emergency arises. don . you are right . and nothing get me motivated like a time to climb challenge . when i was a wee little snapper . i was hanging around ft lauderdale executive when they took a lear 23 and took off and went straight up . trying to set a record . i think it was harvey hop. ok so just pure data from your home airport to 10000. . ok or another airport if you want to get away from atc . then caculate climb rate per minute . ( if you are taking off at 8000 you will get there faster then me ) first person to do this start a new forum "time to climb" then we can add in Quote
cliffy Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Lets see- Time to climb to 12,000' from sea level (KLAX) in a B757-200 from brake release was 2 mins and 56 seconds! We were light and empty of pax. Now we probably have a few AF jet jocks that beat that by a country mile in lawn darts! :-) Quote
Seth Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 2 hours ago, aviatoreb said: Let's do it! Maybe we need a new thread? Maybe we should keep several times? 5k, 10k, 12k, 15k? I can't! I have Bravo over me at 3500 and I'll climb through it before getting to the edge. If I takeoff near my home airport I can give you that data, but not at my home field. KGAI - under the DCA/IAD/BWI/ADW Bravo in the Washington SFRA. Very cool idea -Seth Quote
Hank Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Seth, those are called "extenuating circumstances." Please adjust as necessary, and report in the other thread. Please don't make them launch F16s after you! You won't out climb them. I expect your Missile to thoroughly stomp my little C on Thursday . . . . Quote
aviatoreb Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 9 hours ago, Seth said: I can't! I have Bravo over me at 3500 and I'll climb through it before getting to the edge. If I takeoff near my home airport I can give you that data, but not at my home field. KGAI - under the DCA/IAD/BWI/ADW Bravo in the Washington SFRA. Very cool idea -Seth sure you can - visit some place north of you and then commence. Quote
Seth Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 57 minutes ago, aviatoreb said: sure you can - visit some place north of you and then commence. Nearby yes. And I will. -Seth 1 Quote
Jerry 5TJ Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Regarding "how high?" -- I've always liked the story about the two Gemini astronauts in orbit. One turns to the other and says, "another 1,000 feet and we'll be on top." As for the "C" model: I was at 12,000 (and close to 14,000 density altitude) this past June departing Arizona. Climb rate at 12,000 was no more than 200 fpm and the plane's weight was about 2200 pounds at the time. Quote
mike28w Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 My turn.... 15,000 in a 1954 Piper TriPacer ( 135 horse engine) near Wind River Mountains in Wyoming. Only been to 14,000 in my M20C, but she would go higher..... Both planes handled sloppily at those altitudes.... I wouldn't go that high for fun.... mike Quote
aviatoreb Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 3 hours ago, Seth said: Nearby yes. And I will. -Seth Me too - very soon. Quote
cliffy Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 I knew I'd lose FL450 LRJet M.88 B727 burning 12,000 #/hr Quote
carl Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 19 hours ago, Seth said: I can't! I have Bravo over me at 3500 and I'll climb through it before getting to the edge. If I takeoff near my home airport I can give you that data, but not at my home field. KGAI - under the DCA/IAD/BWI/ADW Bravo in the Washington SFRA. Very cool idea -Seth 19 hours ago, Seth said: I can't! I have Bravo over me at 3500 and I'll climb through it before getting to the edge. If I takeoff near my home airport I can give you that data, but not at my home field. KGAI - under the DCA/IAD/BWI/ADW Bravo in the Washington SFRA. Very cool idea -Seth can't you just say " washington center , mooney needs a climb direct to 10000 ' for the mooney time to climb challenge ., and can i get a altitude report every minute . ": ha ha classic atc loves this stuff. Quote
thinwing Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 On November 15, 2015 at 15:10:43, Danb said: 17,500 in my J. & 25,000 (FL) 250 in my Bravo i never had a reason to go above 19 k in my bravo..so at 25 k what were your numbers? Quote
Danb Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 I generally don't fly over fl180, but on a few occasions I did for weather. My recollection is I was around 210-214 knots, burning 20.4 gph, my cht't were just under 400 tit's 1600. Not worth the difference between 15000 & 17000 ft. If my wife's not with me and winds or weather is no factor I would fly 15,000 or 16,000 ft. I still get around 200 knots but with better temps and less fuel. I like 30/34 with tit just under 1600 it seems to love those numbers. Quote
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