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M20K down in WI

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Bob Proficient

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Looking at the flight track log.  He lost a lot of valuable altitude fast, while turning around, then kept his speed high, well above best glide speed.  Not sure what was happening in the cockpit, but stresses sure were high!

Nothing like loosing the engine over the lake!

He had a closer airport to the West, but it would have been close.  Not sure of winds, but if he failed, he would be in the populated area.

Glad he headed back.

 

Glad he lost the plane but saved himself!

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bonal Grand Master

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One unijured that's fantastic! Good job getting to the field and walking away. Now the question is what happened to the oil.

Mooneymite Grand Master

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Looking at the flight track log.  He lost a lot of valuable altitude fast, while turning around, then kept his speed high, well above best glide speed.

 

Track log shows ground speed.  If he turned back, he was probably turning downwind, so a higher groundspeed could be expected.  No clue what indicated he was holding.

 

Happily the pilot is alive and will be able to tell us what he knows and what he learned.

Alan Fox Grand Master

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Speed is ground track , not airspeed , The good news is he can tell us what actually happened if he so chooses.....Great job.....

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StinkBug Proficient

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Sounds like he did a good job at flying the airplane. Curious about the oil though. Really only one of two things there, either something allowed it to escape in flight, or the pilot didn't do as good of a preflight as he did during flight.

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Bob Proficient

Bob

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Would love to hear what happened from the pilot.  He did well!  Curious how long an engine without oil lasts before it loses power.

Yes I know that the IAS can not be found with the track log alone, but doubt he had a 70kt tailwind.

bradp Grand Master

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This could have very well been the result of the other TOAST thread. Glad he did well to put it down safely.

A discernible proportion of us will experience this someday or have experienced an engine loss. I know that folks like Austin Meyer are trying to develop iPad based best glide tools to try to make this type of an event more survivable. With the plethora of GIS information, obstacle databases and satellite imagery I'm surprised I haven't seen a tool that can lend some assistance in this type of an event. (Specifically engine loss in IMC) "Hey you can't make the airport 10 mm in a headwind and there's a populated / congested area that way but there is a bunch of flat farmland over there so that's your best bet." I'd go for that in a heartbeat .

... Or FLIR. That would be nice someday.

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Guest

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One unijured that's fantastic! Good job getting to the field and walking away. Now the question is what happened to the oil.

We had a Piper Arrow land at our field a while ago, it arrived with low oil pressure. There was oil from the engine to the tail cone, when we opened the cowls we found that the oil cap had been left off at the last airport only 25 miles away when the pilot added oil.

The top of the engine was completely dry, all of the oil was blown out of the breather when the air pressure in the cowl above the cylinders pressurized the crankcase. The engine in a 231/252 is the same design.

Clarence

MB65E Grand Master

MB65E

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Higher crank case pressure due to the turbo maybe? I'm glad I don't know what it does in our mooney. However, my friend blew 10qts out of the oil filler on a Yak 52. That was a Mess!!

Glad the guy is Ok. I hate Lake Michigan. It's messed with me more than much larger bodies of water ever have.

-Matt

MyNameIsNobody Grand Master

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CamGuard or no CamGuard?

 

Someone has to ask...........

Head shaking slowly left to right...my best Jeff Spicolli surfer voice saying..."You Dick"! from behind me...

Marauder Grand Master

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Can anyone tell uf he landed gear up or down in the tall grass?

Having spent a tad bit of time on a farm, that wheat is high enough that my guess is his wheels are down.
fantom Grand Master

fantom

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Having spent a tad bit of time on a farm......

No doubt where you developed a taste for sweat hogs. ;)

Marauder Grand Master

Marauder

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So Marauder , is the farm the source of you "livestock" ?????

Absolutely not, butt it is their food source. Any good cattle farmer will tell you that you need acreage for the herd. Moo Moo :)

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fantom Grand Master

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Another terrible crash, this time a Bonanza, near Boston. Three dead....RIP.

Please invest in regular serious recurrency training my friends.

Plane crashes into home in Massachusetts, killing 3 aboard; residents escape

Associated Press

Published June 28, 2015

A small plane crashed into a house Sunday evening, killing three people on board, police said, but residents managed to flee as fire engulfed the home.

The Beechcraft BE36 aircraft crashed into the house at about 5:45 p.m. Sunday, said Jim Peters of the Federal Aviation Administration. It had taken off from Lancaster Airport in Pennsylvania and was headed to Norwood Memorial Airport in Massachusetts.

Fire crews extinguished the blaze nearly three hours after the crash in Plainville, about 30 miles southwest of Boston, said Massachusetts State Police spokesman Dave Procopio. He said the residents escaped and preliminary reports show three people in the plane were killed.

The plane wound up behind the two-story colonial, where a section of the tail and a charred wing rested on a hillside in the yard.

Neighbors reported hearing something amiss as the plane flew over their homes.

Mike Brown tells The Sun Chronicle he was outside barbecuing when he heard the plane, looked up and saw it start to bank. He said the engine sounded like it was sputtering and then heard a crash and saw smoke.

The NTSB is expected to arrive at the crash site Monday.

The identities of the dead won't be released until the NTSB has notified their families, Peters said.

Bob Proficient

Bob

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Yes, Emergency Landing is nice to see!

Notice they also covered the tail number for the picture?

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