Badmoonraising Posted April 3, 2020 Report Posted April 3, 2020 This post comes to you from a 64 M20E owner in Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada. Currently self quarantined. My tanks leak a little, not bad, but a little. I am considering doing tank resealing while in this holding pattern. I would appreciate advise in this regard. Especially from those whom have done it. I plan to do the work myself with supervision and sign-off by my AME. I know there are some whom will say "don't bother" but I am one of those owners that likes everything to work properly on my airplane. I would just feel better not having any leaks. Seems inevitable that it will require doing sometime. Why not now? I am seeking mentors. Especially those who may have iPhones making FaceTime calls possible. Quote
MIm20c Posted April 3, 2020 Report Posted April 3, 2020 This thread might be a good place to start. Quote
carusoam Posted April 3, 2020 Report Posted April 3, 2020 The world is a big place... 1) There will be people that say don’t fly a plane... 2) Stay focussed... 3) Assess the work to be done... is it a small leak, or a big one? 4) How old is the existing sealant? 5) Are you looking to renew the tanks and fuel system completely...? 6) Around here you will probably get more people to show you how to do it... 7) Anyone can say don’t do it... when we’re they being helpful...? Only you can decide... 8) There are a few examples of how it can be done around here... 9) Alex did the best job of taking pics and detailing the whole job... 10) Stay positive... it’s a long road ahead... PP thoughts only... Best regards, -a- Quote
tmo Posted April 4, 2020 Report Posted April 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Badmoonraising said: Especially those who may have iPhones making FaceTime calls possible. Totally off topic, but a willing mentor is worth installing a video call app of their choice - there are so many... Quote
Andy95W Posted April 4, 2020 Report Posted April 4, 2020 I would suggest starting with the Don Maxwell article, below. If your sealant is less than 20 years old, you might want to start with simply patching. http://donmaxwell.com/fuel-tank-repairs-how-we-fix-them/ 2 Quote
JimB Posted April 4, 2020 Report Posted April 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Andy95W said: I would suggest starting with the Don Maxwell article, below. If your sealant is less than 20 years old, you might want to start with simply patching. http://donmaxwell.com/fuel-tank-repairs-how-we-fix-them/ From experience, his technique of coating with hand soap, pulling a vacuum with a shop vac and watching for bubbles works. Quote
Prior owner Posted April 4, 2020 Report Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) When I went into my tanks, the area leaking the worst was where someone had done the sump valve upgrade and the sealant they used became hard and was cracking....it also had not been coated with the topcoat. If you are going to patch, I recommend applying the top coat afterwards. The rest of my tank looked pretty good. Edited April 4, 2020 by PilotCoyote Quote
Htwjr Posted April 5, 2020 Report Posted April 5, 2020 I used Maxwell's method to find the leaks on my C but rather than just patch them I stripped the leaking areas before resealing them. That has been about two years ago flying from a grass strip with no problems. I would probably fix them again if necessary but I don't think I would want to try a complete strip and reseal. I would probably take it to one of the professionals for that. 2 Quote
Andy95W Posted April 5, 2020 Report Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Htwjr said: I used Maxwell's method to find the leaks on my C but rather than just patch them I stripped the leaking areas before resealing them. That has been about two years ago flying from a grass strip with no problems. I would probably fix them again if necessary but I don't think I would want to try a complete strip and reseal. I would probably take it to one of the professionals for that. ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ THAT is great advice. Whole-heartedly second that idea. 1 Quote
Greg Ellis Posted April 7, 2020 Report Posted April 7, 2020 I had my tanks resealed 7 or 8 years ago and seeing what was involved I am glad I paid someone else to do it and do it right. I had gone through 4-5 patches done by very reputable A&P's that never lasted longer than 1 or 2 flights. Quote
cliffy Posted April 11, 2020 Report Posted April 11, 2020 My first question would be -- How big are your hands and arms? Big people have a hard time with the little holes How good is your back and shoulders? Bent over or sitting on the floor can you reach everything without trouble? One might want to jack the airplane and put it on 3 or 4 stacked 2X6s to have a good height to work form top or bottom. Are you ready for the smell of the huckum puckey that is used for the sealing? It smells just like fresh dog poop only stronger!!!! Try doing it inside a 707 fuel tank sometime! :-) :-) Quote
ArtVandelay Posted April 11, 2020 Report Posted April 11, 2020 I had 1 leak patched, and it’s held so far. But when I had my plane stripped in order to be painted, I ended up finding a couple more leaks, either the paint was acting as a sealant or the stripping process was enough to open up new leaks, the worst was around the inspection plates. Something to think about before you decide to paint your plane. My AP said my tanks look excellent, so I just patched it. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted April 11, 2020 Report Posted April 11, 2020 I don’t think you mean reseal. That’s a nuclear option. If it’s just small leaks you want to patch them. It would be like overhauling an engine because there is a bad plug. -Robert Quote
Shadrach Posted April 11, 2020 Report Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 10:23 AM, PilotCoyote said: When I went into my tanks, the area leaking the worst was where someone had done the sump valve upgrade and the sealant they used became hard and was cracking....it also had not been coated with the topcoat. If you are going to patch, I recommend applying the top coat afterwards. The rest of my tank looked pretty good. That does not look like an approved sealant. I’ve seen old sealant...even OEM sealant on 40+ year old airplanes that looked significantly better. Quote
Badmoonraising Posted April 24, 2020 Author Report Posted April 24, 2020 Thanks for the input. Once I get in there and really see the condition I can make the call. I have a feeling that I will decide to do a repair. Will keep you posted. Maybe some photo's later. Quote
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