201er Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 I wonder how much longer until they close the beach or make changes. Dumb people will always find a way to get hurt. http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/07/13/caribbean-tourist-killed-by-forceful-blast-from-nearby-jet.html Perhaps I didn't blow anyone away, but I bet that turned a few heads. 5 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 I love that picture... I need to photoshop my Mooney in it's place 1 Quote
201er Posted July 13, 2017 Author Report Posted July 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, gsxrpilot said: I love that picture... I need to photoshop my Mooney in it's place You have no idea what that picture cost me! 7 Quote
flyboy0681 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 No doubt there will be a fence in place the next time I visit the airport. The good news is that they can't prevent planes from flying low over the beach. This has got to be the greatest vantage point on the planet for plane watching. 1 Quote
TonyK Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Been there, done that. The bartender told us they lose a tourist every few years. Quote
HRM Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 11 hours ago, 201er said: http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/07/13/caribbean-tourist-killed-by-forceful-blast-from-nearby-jet.html Are people dumbasses or what?! Quote
carusoam Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 That is just too inviting... the unknowing are expecting significant protection... and they don't get anything but a chain link fence. Being an 8 year old at an airport, I was watching planes move from inside a building. The safety glass had wires in it. The 8 year old brain said it must be safe, they used safety glass... I was willing to find out how safe it was... I was grabbed by a gate agent, when I suddenly realized, how powerful that machine is, and its pointed right at me... a welding cart went sliding by in the jet blast... Ordinary and smart People just don't get it. They see a fence and a sign, Good protection for a light breeze... it's got to be good... they have no idea how strong the breeze is going to become... Expect fewer and non standard warnings when you get outside the US. Add alcohol to the vacation paradise and logic can get away from some really smart people... How much power do those engines have...? A: Enough to push a 150k# plane to 500knots... Ejecting a few people across the beach doesn't take nearly as much power... The pelting from sand blasts must be pretty painful... Best regards, -a- Quote
Yooper Rocketman Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 I suspect it won't be long and there will be a concrete blast pad, especially if some lawyer tries litigating for the Darwin candidates. The country or the airport may not have any money, but then they'll go after the airline. On the other hand, maybe some of these countries have a more rational court system. Tom Quote
aviatoreb Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 That concrete curb seems to be largely responsible for the injuries too. Oh what an awful video - but it looks like that lady could have broken her neck on that concrete lip. If they will not put up a concrete blast wall to avert the wind, then at least they should remove the concrete curb which seems to be responsible for the worst of the injuries. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Just now, aviatoreb said: That concrete curb seems to be largely responsible for the injuries too. Oh what an awful video - but it looks like that lady could have broken her neck on that concrete lip. If they will not put up a concrete blast wall to avert the wind, then at least they should remove the concrete curb which seems to be responsible for the worst of the injuries. Yea, I saw that too from another video. It's easy to see how it happened, being blown at over 100mph right into what amounts to a concrete wall. Quote
HRM Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 9 hours ago, carusoam said: ...they don't get anything but a chain link fence. ...and a pair of concrete curbs behind them. Jeez lou-eez, dumbasses. Quote
201er Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aviatoreb said: That concrete curb seems to be largely responsible for the injuries too. Oh what an awful video - but it looks like that lady could have broken her neck on that concrete lip. If they will not put up a concrete blast wall to avert the wind, then at least they should remove the concrete curb which seems to be responsible for the worst of the injuries. I think that concrete curb is there to keep the sand on the beach, so the wind doesn't blow it onto the road. Also keeps cars off the beach. Edited July 14, 2017 by 201er Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 She made it into her late 50's and then...Darwinian decision. I would enjoy watching this from a distance. Participation? NOPE. (Not even when I woke up in the morning and stuff didn't say "easy big fella") Quote
flyboy0681 Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Just now, MyNameIsNobody said: I would enjoy watching this from a distance. Participation? I have to agree Scott, and I did. When I was at the spot a few years ago I opted to stand way off to the side, knowing just how dangerous it could be. Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Those that have been there. I am guessing there is signage to educate on the ramifications of participation? This woman maybe had a few "boat drinks" that Buffet talked about? Maybe needed a friend to say "hey, come over here with me and watch the nuts get blown away by this 747"... Needed Phone a friend lifeline/voice of reason. Curbs are hard. Quote
thinwing Posted July 15, 2017 Report Posted July 15, 2017 8 ft sign ,large red lettering posted directly in front of fence warning of injury or death from jet blast....also included is a bright red graphic of person being blown over...they did for the thrill being bored that day..Than woke up a paraplegic when her neck snapped against that curb... Quote
Stephen Posted July 18, 2017 Report Posted July 18, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 9:41 AM, gsxrpilot said: I love that picture... I need to photoshop my Mooney in it's place Or take a trip and land there; I'll snap a pic from the beach 1 Quote
chrisk Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 It is beyond me how anyone could think getting jet blasted on a beach is fun. In the best case, there has to be sand everywhere. As unfortunate as this accident is, its also one of the things I love about the Dutch Caribbean. They expect folks to be responsible for themselves. They expect folks to exercise common sense. They take the minimally intrusive steps. They stopped auto traffic. --Where the hazard might not be obvious and a tumbling car really could hurt someone else. They put a warning sign up. In the US, the whole beach would have been closed for a 1/4 mile on each side of the runway. 1 Quote
flyboy0681 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, chrisk said: In the US, the whole beach would have been closed for a 1/4 mile on each side of the runway. I don't think they would close the beach, but a 20 foot tall blast fence would definitely be constructed in addition to a 50 foot periphery chain link fence with razor wire. This is what has become of our best vantage points since 9/11 (knee-jerk, overreaction if you ask me). One of the best vantage points that I used to visit was at the foot of runway 1R at SFO, where the airport authority had a parking lot for observers. That's long gone. Then there was the rooftop parking of the Pan Am Worldport at JFK (before it was torn down last year). Since 9/11, that prime location was shut down as well. Quote
chrisk Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 This whole discussion brings back memories from my childhood. I went to high school in Virginia Beach. I remember the road to the naval air station in Norfolk had stop lights for air traffic. Then they built an underpass for the cars. To give some idea of how close it was: http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/i564.asp Quote
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