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[peevee]

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[bonal]

I guess there would be some sort of contract covering the work to be done and they may view it as a none related repair but looking at your photos I can't imagine them not contacting you to advise of the conditions and recommend a repair of the seals. Good luck sir.

[DAVIDWH]

Telephone probably of little use. (Too easy to deny) IE. Hillary Clinton.

 

What would Donald Trump do?

 

Before you file suit, I would have a local Abogado scribe a friendly letter discussing options for redress.

 

As Donald has learned, most realize a simple check to the A&P would be far cheaper than a court case.

 

PS: take photos, take photos, take photos.

 

Sorry for your misfortune.

[mike_elliott]

I had a seep develop and Paul took care of it without question, 8 years later, after the stated warranty period. If this was part of your agreement with him to be changed along with the reseal work, and they neglected to do it, I am sure he will make good. If it was something not done because it wasn't in the scope of the work, then not so much. The good thing is this is a simple repair, most of the time simply tightening the screws fixes it. When I had mine resealed, I specifically asked for all new lines and sender gaskets be installed, and I of course, was charged for this. I see your lines were not new either.

[N33GG]

Sorry, that really sucks! If I were in the tank sealing business, I think I would advise customers to update anything else that could cause further leaking. And if they declined, I would have them sign an acknowledgement that they were aware of the future risk.

Very annoying situation. Again, sorry you are dealing with leaks after having tanks sealed.

[cnoe]

When we had the strip-and-reseal done on the E by WetWingologist at KFXE Edison called about our questionable sender flanges and seals. I sent him used replacement senders and he furnished new seals. Easy peasy; no leaks since.

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[carusoam]

Paul Beck has been highly regarded as a solution to the long standing Mooney challenge of aging tank sealant. Sort of a go to guy for leaky tanks.

People go a long way and pay a premium to seek his services.

I also understand that these seals are the first things people repair before going through effort of flying across the country to see Paul.

The seals clearly have a problem now.

Ask Paul if they were supposed to be part of the reseal project.

Ask an MSC what it cost to swap out the seals.

10 hours seems a little high, since you can see the problem in the photo. Or it's that a lot of clean up and open and closing access panels and interior?

Do you have four fuel level sensors (two per tank) or two?

Trying to be helpful,

-a-

[Piloto]

It appears that the leak is by the screws and not the gasket. I would try first screwing back the screws with sealant. It can save a lot of unnecessary labor.

 

José

[laytonl]

Talk with Paul. He's a good guy. It may not be his problem, but he will tell you the best way to resolve the leak. Lee

[DonMuncy]

I know The Tankman (tank re-sealing operation near Houston) routinely replaces all the gaskets with a re-seal. I presumed all of them did it.

[mike_elliott]

Guess they should have gone there instead then.

?? I thought you said it was your tanks....Im confused...In any event, Instead of trying the case online, why not call Paul Beck? He has been very responsive to legitimate claims in the past, and cannot imagine he would change his mode of doing business now. Carl Sharron is an outstanding individual also if you just want to get over it and go see him and pay him.

[MB65E]

Clean it, and re-seal the screws. Additional PRc might be required around the edge of the fitting. For that small of a leak I would not worry about pulling the fitting out.

I agree it should not leak after a year from a pro tank repair place.

-Matt

[Deb]

anyone had a warranty claim with weep no more?

Our tanks were done a year ago and now they're leaking at the gasket where the lines exit the tanks, just aft of the pilot and passenger seats at the wing root and into the cabin, creating some smell. It's fairly clear the the rubber gasket around that fitting wasn't changed as it's clearly pretty old and dry/cracking.

Our A&P is happy to do the work, but he's of the opinion those gaskets should have been changed when the tanks were done, something about having to get inside the tank to release something and about 10 hours of labor to do both sides.

I had previously emailed weep no more and was pretty much told it wasn't a warranty issue, but that was before I heard back from our A&P, so I was planning to call them and maybe if I didn't get anywhere set up a conference call between the three of us and try to hash it out.

What do you think? Am I crazy to think we shouldn't have a leak anywhere just over a year after a 12ish AMU or whatever reseal job? Maybe I'm being unreasonable.

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It's not clear from this that you did not own the plane when the work was done. Further, you say you've emailed weep no more, but apparently have not spoken with Paul Beck. Mike and others are trying to help you.

Mike knows Paul very well, and he and others have suggested you telephone him to discuss. We have met Paul and spoken with him; he is very knowledgeable, and is a stand-up guy with an excellent reputation.

[paulbeck]

Hello all.

I usually do not reply to things posted, but I feel I must.

In the 15 years of doing fuel tanks, there have, of course, been an issue here and there. Any of you who have seen the inside of a tank, know that just ONE pinhole can cause a huge stain. In any of the cases, I have always answered the customer back, even if it's years out of warranty, even offering to pay the fuel bill to come back for me to repair it.

I have spoken just a few minutes ago to the original poster, and just as I have always done and will continue to do, asked for the opportunity to make ANY correction needed. He agreed and this will be taken care of and any lessons I can take from it will be learned.

I try my absolute best on every project and feel extremely bad if an issue should arise. I have told Bruce Jaeger before, that these tanks are my children and having a post sealing problem, I take personally.

I invite anyone with an issue, to PLEASE contact me, before an Internet post. It's easy to believe the negative, believing the positive is not so easy.

Sorry for my long winded...typed on a phone, no less, post.

Paul Beck

[Mooneymite]

Wow!

That sounds like excellent product support.

[mike_elliott]

I am glad he called and that you, like I have always known you to do, stand behind your work, Paul. I was sure this would be resolved once he communicated with you instead of seeking a solution from one of us. I know he will be pleased with the outcome now that you are involved to address his concerns. Your reputation of being an expert and a stand up guy is why I chose to have you do my tanks many many years ago vs. the cheaper solution that was local.

[MB65E]

Thanks Paul for all you do! Well Stated!

-Matt

[paulbeck]

Thank you all! As most of you know, tank work is a thankless job. I'm very thankful for each and everyone of you, that I have had the privilege of helping. Thank you again!

[Marauder]

Thank you all! As most of you know, tank work is a thankless job. I'm very thankful for each and everyone of you, that I have had the privilege of helping. Thank you again!

Oh come on man! For a guy who specializes in tank sealing, you could have made your last comment more entertaining! Here is how your post should have read:

"Tank you all! As most of you know, tank work is a tankless job. I'm very tankful for each and everyone of you, that I have had the privilege of helping. Tank you again!"

BTW -- I like your business ownership style! Sales makes the first sales, it is after sales service that keeps them coming back.

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[Deb]

I am glad he called and that you, like I have always known you to do, stand behind your work, Paul. I was sure this would be resolved once he communicated with you instead of seeking a solution from one of us. I know he will be pleased with the outcome now that you are involved to address his concerns. Your reputation of being an expert and a stand up guy is why I chose to have you do my tanks many many years ago vs. the cheaper solution that was local.

Mike,

Knowing Paul, I suspect he called Peevee this morning and offered to fix it.

[mike_elliott]

Mike,

Knowing Paul, I suspect he called Peevee this morning and offered to fix it.

I suspect you are right. That is the kind of first class act Paul is. If he even suspects there is an issue with his work, he will pull out all stops to make the customer happy. I am glad his business principals haven't been subordinated to the pressures of price competition, disparaging posts etc. I just wish everyone in aviation had his ethical customer service approach. 

[peevee]

Mike,

Knowing Paul, I suspect he called Peevee this morning and offered to fix it.

tried to call, he was busy, sent an email, he called me right back

[mike_elliott]

tried to call, he was busy, sent an email, he called me right back

See how easy it is to deal with Paul by calling him, or emailing him vs getting answers here? You will be glad you bought a plane that he had worked on because he does stand behind his work. 

[RobertGary1]

Fingers crossed I've always been able to pop open an access panel and patch with some Flamemaster. When the day does come that I need to start over I'll refer back to this thread. Which service is Paul? Is he west or east?

-Robert

[peevee]

See how easy it is to deal with Paul by calling him, or emailing him vs getting answers here? You will be glad you bought a plane that he had worked on because he does stand behind his work.

I had already emailed him months ago.