Oscar Avalle Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Last time we had this discussion we had more than 200 responses, so I thought it may be a good idea to have a poll.... Quote
MooneyBob Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 I comply with the check list. Is anything wrong with that? 1 Quote
carusoam Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Always following the POH of the Long Body... Because it has extensive data that can be followed. The 65C came with an owners manual with very little data. Later POHs still were missing the amount of data required to support the pilot. Best regards, -a- Quote
orionflt Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 I have a flight manual not a POH and there is almost no data except basic numbers and general info, but it does specifically state flaps at 15 deg for take off. Brian Quote
Hank Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 I thought we already beat this dead horse into bloody pulp??? 1 Quote
carusoam Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Oscar brought out a newly refreshed dead horse for us to beat! Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Posted March 17, 2014 Oscar brought out a newly refreshed dead horse for us to beat! Best regards, -a- Â Yeah... but look at the Vintaje Mooney section... we have been beating a decomposed horse for quite some time... so who knows may be now we can put him (the horse) back in the coffin... Â Oscar 1 Quote
201er Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Not using flaps on takeoff is like... Â leaning 50 rop not using camguard peeing sitting down 2 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Who really cares what someone else does with their airplane, for any reason other than mild curiosity? There is always more than one right way to do something. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote
co2bruce Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 The POH , and checklists were written for a reason. Owning only modern Mooneys I am speaking about those models. Quote
Hank Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 And we can all agree, that all POHs and Owners Manuals do not agree . . . thus the eternal debate between those of us who follow our own particular "book," which may disagree on various points with other years' "book," even for the same model . . . . . After all, it's not rocket science, it's just low-speed aerodynamics. 1 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 I always take off with flaps on st. Patties day! 1 Quote
BigTex Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 I always take off with flaps on st. Patties day! And I always lower mine to the knees which everyone knows as the takeoff position! Quote
scottfromiowa Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Who really cares what someone else does with their airplane, for any reason other than mild curiosity? There is always more than one right way to do something.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Let the beatings begin you heretic!!!!! Quote
scottfromiowa Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Not using flaps on takeoff is like... Â leaning 50 rop not using camguard peeing sitting down Do you stand up to pee and then sit down to dump? Only one way, right? Quote
gsxrpilot Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Well you can put me in the camp with those who believe the POH, Owners Manual and most other paperwork that comes with the airplane was produced with the primary purpose of fending off the lawyers.  Secondarily it provides information of how the companies test pilots like to fly.  Beyond that, it's interesting reading.  Now I don't profess to be a professional test pilot, but then neither do the many thousands of pilots out there flying aircraft marked Experimental.  And they seem to do all right.  As Hank said, "its not rocket science, it's just low speed aerodynamics."  And it's really pretty simple.  Personally, I like to use flaps on takeoff but only because I believe the shorter the take off roll, the longer the tires last.  But certainly not because a Mooney test pilot tells me I must.  I'm more of a "seat of the pants pilot" and somehow, someway I'm sure that corresponds to the issue of standing or sitting to pee? :-) Quote
gregwatts Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 It is acceptable to sit when you pee.....as long as you are facing the rear!     THAT.......is in the manual! Quote
201er Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 I'm more like ... who cares what you do in your airplane? I know what I am doing in mine. Oh boy... Quote
carusoam Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 I thought you had to be from NJ to have that kind of attitude!!! Or your on your way to NJ and getting some practice in! Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Oscar - you're such a trouble maker Bet you were one of those kids who stuck sticks into bee hives... Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Posted March 18, 2014 Oscar - you're such a trouble maker Bet you were one of those kids who stuck sticks into bee hives... Â you got me... 1 Quote
Jeff_S Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 There was a missing category in the poll. Mine would have been "Most of the time except when I forget." I have missed the flaps a few times on takeoff and then I wonder why it took so long to rotate. The myster is solved when I try to raise the flaps and the switch is already up. 1 Quote
201er Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 There was a missing category in the poll. Mine would have been "Most of the time except when I forget." I have missed the flaps a few times on takeoff and then I wonder why it took so long to rotate. The myster is solved when I try to raise the flaps and the switch is already up. This is why it's a damn good reason to "always use flaps" so that it becomes a solid habit. This way the one day you REALLY needed them, you have them from habit. Quote
fantom Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Not using flaps on takeoff is like...  leaning 50 rop not using camguard peeing sitting down  not washing or changing your stinky old cargo pants for ten days Quote
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