Need gauge cluster refresh

[N177MC]

I'm in the process of installing O&N bladders in a '65 E model.  Since the gauges have been somewhat un-reliable I thought it a good time to send the cluster out for refurb/re-calibration.

Asked for a quote from Air Parts  of Lock Haven ...  They want $3500 to "overhaul" the cluster !  That's half way to a JPI EDM 930 ...

Any other options out there ?

[ShuRugal]

Half way? That's all the way to an EDM-900 if you are doing the install.

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[N177MC]

Not really, the 900 with tanks is $5000 , so yeah cheaper than the 930 but still more than the refurb.

Rather get the old gauges working better if at all possible .

[47U]

32 minutes ago, N177MC said:

Any other options out there ?

This thread goes waaaaaay back, but might be an option for you.  @hammdo now owns the aircraft.  I think someone else was able to fit the Mitchell gauges into the same panel space as the original Garwin cluster

And this, also from waaaaaay back… (pasted in rich text format to make it readable.)

tablor

Basic Member

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Location: 1T8

Reg #: 3484X

Model: M20E

Posted August 11, 2010

Ok, I found it.  It's Aircraft Instrument Support Services (AISS) in Georgetown, TX.  His name is Ralph Posey and if you call him he can give you an idea of the cost based on the instrument that needs to be repaired.

[TheAv8r]

Most of the time it's not necessarily the gauges that are wrong, but the fuel senders themselves that are inside the tanks. CiES Digital Fuel Senders are the best replacement for these, they are around $900 for 2 senders (L/R tanks). However if it is both the senders and the gauges (which it very well could be), then or a legal primary replacement, I'm not sure what your options are. If the gauges are legally sound (Show E when E), then what you could do is install a JPI FuelScan 450 and CiES Fuel Senders and hook that up. The 450 is a fuel totalizer, but usually is accurate within a gallon or 2 and would help give you an idea of how much fuel you have. 

Overall, I'd recommend just doing a primary engine monitor and CIES Fuel Senders to fully replace the system, but if budget is a concern then the above could be an option for you.

[N177MC]

13 hours ago, 47U said:

 

This thread goes waaaaaay back, but might be an option for you.  @hammdo now owns the aircraft.  I think someone else was able to fit the Mitchell gauges into the same panel space as the original Garwin cluster

 

This is AWESOME !

So,   DESPITE OUTRAGEOUS  PRICE INFLATION IN GA - Mitchell gauges are still only $100 a pop !

Mitchell sells a mounting cage that allows to replicate the old Garwin Six-Pack, price is approx $100 x 6 for gauges, $100 for the 6-pack mounting cage, throw in  new senders and probes,  looks like it's going to come in @ $900  !   

8 years since the OP and STILL  UNDER $1000 !  

 

BRAVO MITCHELL  !!!

 

[RLCarter]

Did the same on my 65-E

 

[N177MC]

Robert - THANKS A 1,000,000  for that VERY detailed report !

 

Five years on since you made the install - how's it holding up ?

 

PS: Could you share your parts list & 337 via e-mail ?

[RLCarter]

46 minutes ago, N177MC said:

PS: Could you share your parts list & 337 via e-mail ?

I sold the plane this past December, I’ll check and see if the new owner will send me a pic of the paper work

[Andy95W]

@RLCarter- if, possible, could you send me the 337 also?  I have a copy of Sabremech’s, but having two examples makes for better supporting data for my FSDO.

[RLCarter]

15 minutes ago, Andy95W said:

@RLCarter- if, possible, could you send me the 337 also?  I have a copy of Sabremech’s, but having two examples makes for better supporting data for my FSDO.

I used sabremechs 337

[N177MC]

All right guys - can I get a Copy of SabreMechs 337 please ?

[carusoam]

2 minutes ago, N177MC said:

All right guys - can I get a Copy of SabreMechs 337 please ?

let’s see if @Sabremech is around…

He is an awesome supplier to this community…

He has built things like a new cowl for old Mooneys and up and down lock blocks…

Expect that there may even be an easy method to make this happen….

Best regards,

-a-

[salty]

I have the garwin cluster out of my M20C if that's all you need let me know.

[Utah20Gflyer]

I'm currently upgrading to CIES fuel senders and opted to go with an aerospace logic digital fuel gauge, it costs about 900 bucks.  I have a JPI EDM 800 so didn't feel like a primary engine monitor would give me enough extra functionality to warrant the extra cost although someday I'd like to upgrade to clean up the panel.  

[Sabremech]

On 2/4/2022 at 1:00 AM, N177MC said:

All right guys - can I get a Copy of SabreMechs 337 please ?

Happy to send you a copy of it. My e-mail is sabremech@gmail.

Thanks,

David

[cliffy]

Just  remember there are 2 different clusters

Thee is one with separate individual gages and the other with 6 in 1 that can't be separated.  

If you have the 6 individual cluster then the 2 fuel tank gages can be removed and overhauled without doing the entire 6 pac cluster. 

If you have the "all in one" cluster with the large Cannon plug on the back you can replace it with the sperate gage cluster by attaching it to the same Cannon plug. Its a direct replacement item.