Niko182 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 My door seal is pretty old, beat up, and 21 years old, so I think I'm going to have @GEE-BEE make me a custom one out of silicon. I thought I'd let people know in case they were also interested in getting a new one themselves. A lot of noise comes from the door, and for people with longer hair, the pressure sucks their hair out the cabin, so I'm hoping this will solve that. Quote
warren.huisman Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 Also interested for an 87 J. Mine is pretty new but doesn’t seal well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
GeeBee Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 I will be interested in seeing that and how you attach it. Quote
Sheriff23 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 I have a 67 M20F.....what are the details on the silicone door seal? Is it glue on or self adhesive? Cost? Curious how you install....and where to order! Quote
hypertech Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 Did Geebee make the door seal mold? At one point I thought there was a thread about getting enough interest to make the extrusion. Don't know where that ended up. Quote
Niko182 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Posted February 4, 2021 There was some starting, but I guess he never ended up making the mold. I've been very happy with his baffles, so I have no doubt he'll do just fine on the door seal. Quote
Ragsf15e Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 Id be interested in replacing the Home Depot window weather seal that came on mine... now if I can find a safe way to remove it? Quote
PT20J Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, Ragsf15e said: Id be interested in replacing the Home Depot window weather seal that came on mine... now if I can find a safe way to remove it? 1 Quote
PT20J Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 The Mooney door fit is pretty bad. I replaced my seals with the stuff specified in the M20J IPC (Brown Aircraft T-9088) and had to do a lot of fooling around to get it not to leak water. It still has an air leak at the bottom which I'm working on trying to figure out since the seal seems tight. You can tell if it's tight by closing the door on a piece of notebook paper and seeing if the paper is held tightly or can move around easily. Skip 1 Quote
Ragsf15e Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 51 minutes ago, PT20J said: The Mooney door fit is pretty bad. I replaced my seals with the stuff specified in the M20J IPC (Brown Aircraft T-9088) and had to do a lot of fooling around to get it not to leak water. It still has an air leak at the bottom which I'm working on trying to figure out since the seal seems tight. You can tell if it's tight by closing the door on a piece of notebook paper and seeing if the paper is held tightly or can move around easily. Skip Mine isn’t right to begin with, but it seems pretty tough to seal along the bottom where the telescoping support arm folds in. Either that won’t seal or it tears up the seal. My weatherstripping seal is actually on the airframe, not on the door where I hear it’s supposed to be. Quote
Niko182 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Posted February 5, 2021 Since there is clearly some interest, I'll go to the airport tomorrow and send @GEE-BEE the sample for the seal. He quoted me 295 bucks to tool up the seal, but I don't know if that was tooling, and the cost of the seal, or just tooling, but I'll get more details tomorrow. I know it's more expensive than what knots2u brand is, but since It's made of silicon, I expect it to last a very long time. I have had his baffles for a while now and they look the same as the day I bought them, and I know a lot of people are also happy with his work. Nik 1 1 Quote
MikeOH Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, GEE-BEE said: I will eat the mandrel cost / tooling Think of extruding macaroni mix material add color extrude cure in long oven, drops in salt water to cool. done GB Why salt water? Quote
V1VRV2 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 I love my inflatable door seal! Big difference when its pumped up and when its not. Quote
PT20J Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 There was one brand of door seal that glued to the fuselage rather than the door, but I’ve heard it tears easily. I don’t think the material is the problem and silicone will need killer glue (Guy will supply that) to stick and then it would be a bear to replace if it ever was damaged. The problem with my door at the top was that the door is slightly sprung from previous owners or their passengers using it for support. At the bottom, there are no latches and the lower pressure outside tends to create a leak combined with a gap at the bottom of the hinge that creates a ram air effect. This is the T-9088 neoprene sponge seal Mooney specifies. Skip 1 Quote
jetdriven Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 they specify that on the later models. But on the earlier models they specify BA1706 which is made by Brown Aircraft seals, but they make it out of some thick rubber and it's permanently crushed flat and they don't seem to have any solution for that. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 13 hours ago, Ragsf15e said: Id be interested in replacing the Home Depot window weather seal that came on mine... now if I can find a safe way to remove it? Why, It works better than the factory seal... 1 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted February 5, 2021 Report Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) I was thinking of a hinged plate that was attached to the threshold at the bottom of the door frame. Then gluing some magnets inside the door plastic. After closing the door you could just swing the plate up and it would stick to the door and block the air leak. But then again, I don't sit over there and the wife rarely complains about it. Edited February 5, 2021 by N201MKTurbo 1 Quote
tomgo2 Posted February 28, 2021 Report Posted February 28, 2021 Thousands of inflatable door seals have been installed for many decades. Mine was installed in 1987 and still works great. www.aerocessories.aero 1 Quote
Niko182 Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Posted March 19, 2021 So it begins. The new door seal looks fantastic and seems to be a perfect replica. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted March 20, 2021 Report Posted March 20, 2021 Wow! Niko, Nice work! Letting @GEE-BEE know to stop by... Your old one really didn’t want to hang out... Thanks for posting the pic... Best regards, -a- Quote
Niko182 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Posted March 20, 2021 I'll keep posting pictures and the proccess. As for removing the glue, its definetely a pain, but i hope it will be worthwhile. My old one wasn't sealing the door shut anymore, so I'm hoping this one will. I have high hopes. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted March 20, 2021 Report Posted March 20, 2021 I’m starting to remember the hot days when the old seal would stick the door closed.... Same as my car at home... I probably silicone greased it to keep the sticky problem from occurring... Best regards, -a- Quote
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