Want to play a game?

[Will.I.Am]

Wow, I have always dreamed of becoming a pilot. This dream did not come true because I live in a small and poor country, but I still like to look at the airplanes passing by my village. They are so shiny and beautiful, like iron birds. All I have left now is to play free cell solitaire and dream that I’m doing that in an airplane.
Hope that one day I will have such a possibility.
PS. can you recommend to me some games about planes?

Edited April 13, 2022 by Will.I.Am

[NichoLasal]

In an age when the Internet has become available to almost everyone, everyone can have their own favorite game. For me, it's casino games. The most popular casino games have always been roulette, blackjack, and slot machines, and that hasn't changed in online casinos either. So after reviewing the casino on https://wolfwinnercasino.com/review I decided this is where I would play. And as time has shown, I made the right choice. There are several online casino games with very good odds of payback. For example, full-pay video poker is something you can play almost even at home with a perfect game. Blackjack is another game where good play will only leave you with a tiny disadvantage against the casino, less than 0.5%.

Edited January 20, 2023 by NichoLasal

[rbp]

On 12/25/2019 at 5:48 PM, 7.Mooney.Driver.0 said:

Dual G3X Primary 10” MFD 7” with engine monitoring option, Dual GTN’s #1 750

I have this panel. I don't use the 7" display very much.  The 10" in split mode + the 750 and an iPad on the yoke is more than enough (and I'm a guy who regularly uses 2 x 30" monitors at work)

[ArtVandelay]

I wonder how far @INA201 got?

[Pinecone]

1 hour ago, rbp said:

I have this panel. I don't use the 7" display very much.  The 10" in split mode + the 750 and an iPad on the yoke is more than enough (and I'm a guy who regularly uses 2 x 30" monitors at work)

I am planning my dream panel upgrade and going a similar route.  750Xi and 650Xi.

Was wondering if it made more sense to put in 7" G3X on the right side, with PFD capability or an Aera 760.

One purpose, I occasionally fly with a second pilot in the right seat, who sometimes flies the plane and it would be nice to have MFD and PFD over there.

 

[rbp]

16 minutes ago, Pinecone said:

One purpose, I occasionally fly with a second pilot in the right seat, who sometimes flies the plane and it would be nice to have MFD and PFD over there.

 

I was told by my installer (before the install) that the right seat 7" display cannot be used as a PFD, only as an MFD. Given what I have since learned about him, I am not 100% sure his answer is accurate. But it is something I'm going to try to have enabled at some point in time. Anyway you should check to see if it can be done. 

[Niko182]

59 minutes ago, Pinecone said:

I am planning my dream panel upgrade and going a similar route.  750Xi and 650Xi.

Was wondering if it made more sense to put in 7" G3X on the right side, with PFD capability or an Aera 760.

One purpose, I occasionally fly with a second pilot in the right seat, who sometimes flies the plane and it would be nice to have MFD and PFD over there.

 

I have one display and I couldn’t see myself putting another one unless it was a 10in like @bmcconnaha did in his 201. Spend the money on long range tanks or a cheap taildragger.

[Pinecone]

15 hours ago, Niko182 said:

I have one display and I couldn’t see myself putting another one unless it was a 10in like @bmcconnaha did in his 201. Spend the money on long range tanks or a cheap taildragger.

I have long range tanks.

Why not a 7"?  It fits without moving the whole stack (and I have the hump in the glareshield), and the 750 is closer to the right to act as the moving map for the right seat person.   Plus they would probably have a tablet running an EFB.

Last flight, I took my old iPad Mini 2, and using a RAM suction cut, connected FF to the AHRS in the GTX-345.  Other than it showing a slight left bank, it worked fine.

[Niko182]

16 minutes ago, Pinecone said:

I have long range tanks.

Why not a 7"?  It fits without moving the whole stack (and I have the hump in the glareshield), and the 750 is closer to the right to act as the moving map for the right seat person.   Plus they would probably have a tablet running an EFB.

Last flight, I took my old iPad Mini 2, and using a RAM suction cut, connected FF to the AHRS in the GTX-345.  Other than it showing a slight left bank, it worked fine.

In my opinion the G3X already provides so much information and that's coming from a G3X and a GNX375 combo, and the 375 has a tiny screen. a 750XI G3X combo will offer so much information. At the end of the day, it's only money. Specifically your money. Will a Dual G3X look cooler and offer more? Absolutely. Will it do that to the extent of 10 to 20 grand more? In my opinion no, but yours could be and probably is different.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Niko182

[Rick Junkin]

15 hours ago, rbp said:

I was told by my installer (before the install) that the right seat 7" display cannot be used as a PFD, only as an MFD. Given what I have since learned about him, I am not 100% sure his answer is accurate. But it is something I'm going to try to have enabled at some point in time. Anyway you should check to see if it can be done. 

Look in the Aircraft Flight Manual Supplement you got with the installation and see if it contains this paragraph found in Garmin AFMS document 190-01754-01 Rev. 5. 

Cheers,
Rick

[rbp]

thank you! 

 

[Rick Junkin]

2 hours ago, rbp said:

thank you! 

 

Please let me know if that procedure works for you. My panel upgrade is scheduled for the end of March and my layout is somewhat dependent on being able to display a PFD "repeater" on the 7" MFD.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Rick

Edited January 19, 2023 by Rick Junkin
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[rbp]

29 minutes ago, Rick Junkin said:

Please let me know if that procedure works for you. My panel upgrade is scheduled for the end of March and my layout is somewhat dependent on being able to display a PFD "repeater" on the 7" MFD.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Rick

Plane is in the shop rn, so it will be a couple of weeks 

[Steve0715]

2 hours ago, Rick Junkin said:

Please let me know if that procedure works for you. My panel upgrade is scheduled for the end of March and my layout is somewhat dependent on being able to display a PFD "repeater" on the 7" MFD.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Rick

Rick, beautiful panel.  Very clean.  One comment/question.  I love the push button start but I had it suggested that it could be a potential hazard if the master switch is on.  There is the possibility of inadvertently pressing the start button.  What would your thoughts be to move the start to the top.  Moving everything down to make that possible.  I’m thinking that in that position there would be less chance of hitting start?  

[Niko182]

3 minutes ago, Steve0715 said:

Rick, beautiful panel.  Very clean.  One comment/question.  I love the push button start but I had it suggested that it could be a potential hazard if the master switch is on.  There is the possibility of inadvertently pressing the start button.  What would your thoughts be to move the start to the top.  Moving everything down to make that possible.  I’m thinking that in that position there would be less chance of hitting start?  

I have mine where he has his. I’ve never hit it unless I was trying to start the plane. Had it for 3 years now.

[Rick Junkin]

15 minutes ago, Steve0715 said:

I love the push button start but I had it suggested that it could be a potential hazard if the master switch is on.

I'm looking for a keyed "ON-OFF" switch, more for security reasons, to disable the start switch. It will most likely go at the bottom of the panel. It will also serve a safety role in being the last item turned on before engine start and the last item turned off on shutdown. Some would say that defeats the purpose of the Electroair mag/start unit (no key required) but I like the Electroair for the way it functions for positive control of each mag individually. Reliability should be better than the traditional mag/start switch as well.

I laid out all of the switches in a flow pattern that makes sense to me. The left side is optimized for a top-to-bottom shut down flow. The bottom right row of switches are in an order optimized for my before landing flow. Pitot heat as required, Taxi Lights on when cleared for the approach, Landing Lights and Boost Pump on when cleared to land. A quick visual check of the last three switches confirms I have clearance to approach/land and am ready for a missed. Everyone has their own way that works.

Thanks for the comments. This panel was 4 years in the planning. Funny how it looks very similar to what other folks have come up with recently. I guess there are only so many ways to skin this cat!

Hopefully this is useful info for the original poster.

Cheers,
Rick

[Pinecone]

7 hours ago, Niko182 said:

In my opinion the G3X already provides so much information and that's coming from a G3X and a GNX375 combo, and the 375 has a tiny screen. a 750XI G3X combo will offer so much information. At the end of the day, it's only money. Specifically your money. Will a Dual G3X look cooler and offer more? Absolutely. Will it do that to the extent of 10 to 20 grand more? In my opinion no, but yours could be and probably is different.

Remember, I am looking at providing a PFD for a pilot in the right seat, as well.

[Niko182]

22 minutes ago, Pinecone said:

Remember, I am looking at providing a PFD for a pilot in the right seat, as well.

But a guardian iPad mount for the mini and just throw an iPad mini in the copilot side of the panel. 

[Pinecone]

12 hours ago, Niko182 said:

But a guardian iPad mount for the mini and just throw an iPad mini in the copilot side of the panel. 

That is the low cost way.

But if I have doing a major panel upgrade with custom panels, why not do it right?

But taking the into account, the options for the right seat are G3X 7" with PFD reversion, AERA 760, or iPad?

[rbp]

1 hour ago, Pinecone said:

options for the right seat

the question is: what features do you want for the right seat? fully redundant PFD? PFD that mirrors the left seat? MFD (nav/wx/wpt/fpl)? YouTube and TikTok? 

 

[Niko182]

1 hour ago, Pinecone said:

That is the low cost way.

But if I have doing a major panel upgrade with custom panels, why not do it right?

But taking the into account, the options for the right seat are G3X 7" with PFD reversion, AERA 760, or iPad?

Or a 10in G3X but that requires a lot more panel work.

You seem like you think the 7 in is worth it. From that point of view do it. It’s going to be your plane. My opinion is that it wasn’t worth it. Hence why I didn’t do it. It’ll still be a nice addition to the panel regardless.

[rbp]

24 minutes ago, Niko182 said:

My opinion is that it wasn’t worth it. Hence why I didn’t do it.

I have the 7" on the right side. I would put it into the category of "its nice to have" and "makes good use of the rh panel"

[Pinecone]

5 hours ago, rbp said:

the question is: what features do you want for the right seat? fully redundant PFD? PFD that mirrors the left seat? MFD (nav/wx/wpt/fpl)? YouTube and TikTok? 

 

Yes.

If it is a PFD, why not make it redundant, just in case?  And yes, a PFD for a pilot in the right seat to use.

At times, it would be used as an MFD.  For a pilot in the right seat helping or pax who wants to see where we are.

Not TikTok, but NetFlix would be nice for pax entertainment.

[Pinecone]

5 hours ago, Niko182 said:

Or a 10in G3X but that requires a lot more panel work.

You seem like you think the 7 in is worth it. From that point of view do it. It’s going to be your plane. My opinion is that it wasn’t worth it. Hence why I didn’t do it. It’ll still be a nice addition to the panel regardless.

I am not sure yet.  Going through the thought process.

[rbp]

2 hours ago, Pinecone said:

I am not sure yet.  Going through the thought process.

think about what you're going to put on which display:

here's the way I have my panel set up:

10" G3X PFD: EIS strip on the far left. left half is PFD. right half is primarily on map with terrain and WX, but when I want to see the full engine gauge system, I will tap the EIS strip to switch the right half to EIS, and tap the strip again to go back to map

750: primary navigation -- track up map, updating to flight plan / direct, loading approaches, vertical navigation, getting frequencies, tuning radios, intercom and TXP

7" G3X -- since I fly in busy airspace, I always keep this on traffic. I like having a separate traffic display, but I think I could do with out it.

iPad mini on the yoke -- approach plates and airport diagrams