Hurricane Irma

[Hector]

Eye right over Marco Island. I know we have at least one Mooneyspacer based there. Hope everyone is doing ok.


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[carusoam]

Nice live reporting, Hector!

Best regards,

-a-

[Piloto]

Since Irma went overland It has been losing cohesiveness and size.

Jose

[Piloto]

Bill Gates Hurricane Killer idea.

http://www.askdeb.com/news/bill-gates-hurricane-killer/

My Killer idea.

Send a nuclear missile into the center of the hurricane and detonate it. The blast high pressure will convert the low pressure phenomena into a high pressure instantly, dissolving the hurricane. Trump may not do it but Kim Jong would not hesitate.

José

[Hector]

Lost electrical power around 1:30 this morning. Wind and rain pretty bad and numerous flashes from transformers blowing. By sunrise most of he state of Florida will be without power. I'll be setting up my generator soon and when conditions make it possible will fly to Miami to check on my mother and sister. Lost contact with them yesterday as the phone
Iined are down too.


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[82Mike]

Well we made it out of the eye.  Lots of wind damage in both KMKY, FA37 (where i wish my plane was), and KAPF.  I have not seen my plane yet, but we are all ok!

[Danb]

Awesome Mike hopefully your plane is also ok

[flyboy0681]

It is with great sadness that I report N1161Z suffered severe damage as it was being flown to safety. He and his two passengers walked away unscathed, but one of my two partners was flying it into a small private field near Carrollton, Georgia, the only place he could find available hangar space. He stated in the text that he came in too hot and overran the runway. The plane went into trees at the end of the runway and cut into both wings, miraculously missing the fuel tanks.  

I am absolutely heartbroken, but am grateful that all walked away without a scratch since the cabin wasn't touched at all. Now it's up to the insurance company to determine its fate. I'll update with the pictures after I deal with my other mess.

[TonyK]

Well that is an unfortunate turn of events.  Glad everyone came out unharmed.  Sorry about the airplane.

[Hank]

I think i know that field, it's near my uncle's house. Glad to hear that everyone walked away! That's the silver lining here.

[MyNameIsNobody]

  On 9/11/2017 at 1:36 PM, flyboy0681 said:

It is with great sadness that I report N1161Z suffered severe damage as it was being flown to safety. He and his two passengers walked away unscathed, but one of my two partners was flying it into a small private field near Carrollton, Georgia, the only place he could find available hangar space. He stated in the text that he came in too hot and overran the runway. The plane went into trees at the end of the runway and cut into both wings, miraculously missing the fuel tanks.  

I am absolutely heartbroken, but am grateful that all walked away without a scratch since the cabin wasn't touched at all. Now it's up to the insurance company to determine its fate. I'll update with the pictures after I deal with my other mess.

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Sorry to here about this, but so glad everyone on board is O.K.  THAT is what counts.

[flyboy0681]

Some questions about insurance. Like most, I've had to deal with auto insurers over the years but not an aircraft. I believe we have $110k hull insurance, so does that mean we would get the full amount if it's a complete write-off or do we get that plus any recent investment in the plane, such as the overhaul which just passed 40 hours?

[neilpilot]

  On 9/11/2017 at 2:50 PM, flyboy0681 said:

Some questions about insurance. Like most, I've had to deal with auto insurers over the years but not an aircraft. I believe we have $110k hull insurance, so does that mean we would get the full amount if it's a complete write-off or do we get that plus any recent investment in the plane, such as the overhaul which just passed 40 hours?

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$110k plus any recovery cost, less deductible.  If you did not increase declared value for the improvements, they are not covered.

[Bravoman]

  On 9/11/2017 at 2:50 PM, flyboy0681 said:

Some questions about insurance. Like most, I've had to deal with auto insurers over the years but not an aircraft. I believe we have $110k hull insurance, so does that mean we would get the full amount if it's a complete write-off or do we get that plus any recent investment in the plane, such as the overhaul which just passed 40 hours?

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Unfortunately, The maximum that you can get from the insurer is the agreed-upon hull  value as stated in the policy declarations. That is why it is important to get the agreed-upon value increased for any major improvements to the aircraft.  I am very sorry about the loss of your aircraft. 

[jasona900]

  On 9/11/2017 at 2:50 PM, flyboy0681 said:

Some questions about insurance. Like most, I've had to deal with auto insurers over the years but not an aircraft. I believe we have $110k hull insurance, so does that mean we would get the full amount if it's a complete write-off or do we get that plus any recent investment in the plane, such as the overhaul which just passed 40 hours?

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It never hurts to ask.  My Mooney had just come out of annual when I had an incident causing a total loss.  During the annual, I had a Powerflow installed.  I did not report the exhaust install or increased value of the airplane to my insurance company until after the incident.  They worked with me, and for a $25.00 premium increase plus a copy of the invoice and log book entry, they sent me a check for my full insured amount, PLUS the cost of the Powerflow (about an extra $4k).   Lesson learned... always report that stuff to your insurance, as the benefit far outweighs the premium increase.

[Jeff_S]

  On 9/11/2017 at 1:36 PM, flyboy0681 said:

It is with great sadness that I report N1161Z suffered severe damage as it was being flown to safety. He and his two passengers walked away unscathed, but one of my two partners was flying it into a small private field near Carrollton, Georgia, the only place he could find available hangar space. He stated in the text that he came in too hot and overran the runway. The plane went into trees at the end of the runway and cut into both wings, miraculously missing the fuel tanks.  

I am absolutely heartbroken, but am grateful that all walked away without a scratch since the cabin wasn't touched at all. Now it's up to the insurance company to determine its fate. I'll update with the pictures after I deal with my other mess.

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What field?

[carusoam]

Thanks everyone for checking in.

If you haven't checked in, feel free to drop a note that says you are still alive.  Even if its weeks from today.

Wishing flyboy a speedy recovery for N1161Z, which ever direction that it takes...

Best regards,

-a-

 

[flyboy0681]

  On 9/11/2017 at 5:22 PM, Jeff_S said:

What field?

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I really don't know yet.

[MIm20c]

I think my policy has a $5k allowance on recently added equipment.  I'd grab the contract and read over the fine print. 

[Piloto]

  On 9/11/2017 at 5:52 PM, flyboy0681 said:

 

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Sad to hear about your plane. I left mine at the home hangar at KFXE. Came by this morning and saw no damage anywhere at the airport, my hangar was undamaged. Will see when hurricane José comes by.

José

[MyNameIsNobody]

  On 9/11/2017 at 3:13 PM, jasona900 said:

It never hurts to ask.  My Mooney had just come out of annual when I had an incident causing a total loss.  During the annual, I had a Powerflow installed.  I did not report the exhaust install or increased value of the airplane to my insurance company until after the incident.  They worked with me, and for a $25.00 premium increase plus a copy of the invoice and log book entry, they sent me a check for my full insured amount, PLUS the cost of the Powerflow (about an extra $4k).   Lesson learned... always report that stuff to your insurance, as the benefit far outweighs the premium increase.

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May I ask what carrier that was?  That was above and beyond.  Pretty classey.  Carriers often get bad press for claims issues.  I am pleasantly surprised that they would go above the agreed limit amount.  I would not have thought to even ask this.  Good for you.

[LANCECASPER]

  On 9/2/2017 at 2:53 PM, LANCECASPER said:

No way can they make you move it. You could argue that with the impending storm you didn't feel it was safe, or you had a head cold or a headache or didn't feel up to it. They are giving you the option of moving it and covering up to a certain amount of expenses to move it but not requiring you to move it or else a claim in a storm would never be paid.

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Well . .  it turns out that they can't make you move it but they can charge a higher deductible if you don't. Here's the clause in my Global Policy:

HURRICANES: REPOSITIONING EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT AND AMENDED DEDUCTIBLE

Provided the aircraft is insured for physical damage coverage, the Special Provisions Endorsement (C002) has been amended to provide coverage for the reimbursement of certain expenses related to the repositioning of the aircraft from areas where Hurricane Watches orWarnings are in effect. Limits are $500 per hurricane or $1,000 per policy period. Aircraft that remain in areas affected by Hurricane Watches or Warnings will be subject to an increased not in motion deductible equal to 5% of the Insured Value. Please see endorsementC002 for the full text of this change.

[jasona900]

  On 9/11/2017 at 6:48 PM, MyNameIsNobody said:

May I ask what carrier that was?  That was above and beyond.  Pretty classey.  Carriers often get bad press for claims issues.  I am pleasantly surprised that they would go above the agreed limit amount.  I would not have thought to even ask this.  Good for you.

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Starr Aviation Insurance (purchased through AOPA).   I dealt with one of the Starr adjusters directly, and he was exceptionally helpful throughout the entire process.  

[MIm20c]

  On 9/11/2017 at 6:59 PM, jasona900 said:

Starr Aviation Insurance (purchased through AOPA).   I dealt with one of the Starr adjusters directly, and he was exceptionally helpful throughout the entire process.  

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Starr is who I have as well. My guess is it was under the 5k limit my policy has and might have been part of your paid coverage.  I'm glad it worked out for you.  

[flyboy0681]

Let me ask this. If the carrier pays us in full, can we negotiate taking some of the equipment out for use in a replacement plane, such as the GTN 750?