Bryan Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Hi everyone, my name is Bryan. First time poster, and soon-to-be first time Mooney owner. Been researching airplanes (several types) for about 6 months and finally found one. I am purchasing a 1967 M20F in the next 24 hours. Pre-buy is done, CFI ready, commercial flight purchased to get to aircraft, and pickup tomorrow. I have seen some other related topics and you guys always ask for pictures. So, here is a pics attached. I chose this bird because of the following reasons: what looks like a great community (here!) great performance for the $$ a chance to own an awesome aircraft a aircraft that I can grow into - IFR cert next something to have fun. The plane will be housed at Conway, AR, KCXW, (Central Arkansas) as soon as an enclosed hanger opens up but for now it will be next door at KBDQ. The plan is to fly out tomorrow with my CFI, long-time Delta pilot, and former Mooney owner - to Charleston, SC and fly her home. I cannot wait! So, I am prepping my Foreflight app with this bird and am trying to enter in the following information: Taxi/Takeoff Fuel Used - GPH Climb True Airspeed Climb Fuel Per Hour Climb Rate (FPM) Cruise - TAS Cruise - GPH Decent - TAS Decent - GPH Decent Rate (FPM) I am looking most of these up in the POH but if anyone has ForeFlight and can help, that would be great. Any other resources or advise you can give to a new owner is welcome! -Bryan 4 Quote
gsengle Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Congrats she sure looks pretty... make sure to send us a trip home report!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Htwjr Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Very nice looking plane. The paint, windshield and rounded windows really make it look modern. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have enjoyed my '67C. 3 Quote
3914N Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Beautiful! The rounded windows make her look like a J. You'll have a lot of ramp appeal. Hard to beat a vintage 'F in terms of capability per dollar. I think you'll love it. I have 70 hours in an F and here's what I use for performance in ForeFlight. These numbers are overly conservative on purpose... real world performance should be better. Climb: 110 ktas, 500 fpm, 14 gph Cruise: 145 ktas, 10 gph Descent*: 145 ktas, -500 fpm, 7 gph *I pull the power out for my descent and go down at cruise airspeed to save gas. I think most people on MS keep their power in and enjoy a nice 165-knot descent. Up to you. 1 Quote
Mooneymite Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Welcome! Looks like a great airplane. 1 Quote
XXX Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Awesome! Enjoy! "F"'s are Fantastic. 2 Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Welcome aboard. It will take a while to get comfortable with everything, but well worth it. 3 Quote
TheTurtle Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 F you!!! lol. welcome to the F club. Your 1 piece rounded rear window and cowl mods are cool. Great looking plane. If you have a minute could you shoot some more pics of that cowl near the spinner. I have that lasar part and just dont see how it fits without some serious cutting and bending. 2 Quote
Hector Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Welcome aboard Bryan. Nice F and I have no doubt you will love it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote
TWinter Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Looks great..Very nice paint scheme. I would think two fuel stops would get it home with no problem. Good to see another Mooney in the mid-south. Looks like about 507 miles @ 32g. This is just a quick look at FF. Not taking into account all your questions. Maybe just for the heck of make a stop at Athens KAHN and Fayetteville FYM for fuel and time to stretch and admire your new bird. It would break up the trip into simple legs and no pressure on fuel stops. I always plan more stops than necessary, that way I can enjoy the flight with no worries and keep safe margins. -Tom 1 Quote
Mooneymite Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Interesting. Looking at the registration history, it looks like that plane spent some time south of Atlanta near me. I don't recall ever seeing it, though. Quote
neilpilot Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Actually, a MSer with the name N17AC, from back in 2014, owned her in Atlanta. What she looked like before the recent re-paint. Should only need 1 fuel stop to get back from Charleston SC, unless winds are really fierce. 1 Quote
Hank Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, neilpilot said: Should only need 1 fuel stop to get back from Charleston SC, unless winds are really fierce. Yep. Even in my slow C with less fuel. Look for somewhere in Tennessee with good fuel prices. Edited January 7, 2017 by Hank 1 Quote
Bryan Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Posted January 7, 2017 Thank you all! Thanks @3914N for the perf data. I figured someone had a starting point. In my research of the plane, I came across that older picture, too, and the user N17AC. So one thing that I forgot to mention was this this aircraft has the Monroy Aux tanks for 100gal usable aboard. Don't have a full W/B specs yet on this bird but will calc and come up with something reasonable for both the plane and the two of us aboard. -b Quote
mooneyflier Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Brian, welcome to the forum. That's a nice looking Mooney! I and a friend made that flight in his Cirrus from Little Rock to Charleston Executive and back. Atlanta wouldn't let us transition through their airspace. They vectored us to the South side both times. That's probably best for your route of flight. If I was doing it in my M20E, I'd consider skirting Atlanta on the South side with one stop at KEET. With today's winds I'd use less than 40 gal when I got to KEET. That's the approximate midpoint to Morrilton. Airnav has some good comments for that airport and the SS fuel is $3.80/ gal. BTY, I'm hangared at KPGR. Just saw your reply about having 100 gal usable. You have the non-stop option, but I think you're looking at 6 + hrs. Hope this helps. Be safe!! -Tom Quote
neilpilot Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bryan said: So one thing that I forgot to mention was this this aircraft has the Monroy Aux tanks for 100gal usable aboard. -b Easy non-stop back home Quote
Bryan Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Posted January 7, 2017 @mooneyflier, thanks for the info. I was looking at another M20E in Piggott, near you, but decided on this one because of equipment. Good info on Atlanta, we may just plan around that bravo airspace - the commercial flights out of KLIT are crazy right now with all the weather and people trying to get where they are going. I hope we can get out of here in the morning. @neilpilot, the plane could do it "easy" but this new Mooney pilot might think otherwise. Quote
Mooneymite Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, mooneyflier said: ....I'd consider skirting Atlanta on the South side with one stop at KEET. With today's winds I'd use less than 40 gal when I got to KEET. PIM (Pine Mountain, GA near Calloway Gardens) usually has the cheapest fuel around ATL. Nice folks and very easy in/easy out. 1 Quote
mooneyflier Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 I thought it was kinda funny what the controller said when were getting close to his Atlanta Brovo airspace on this VFR flight, "Cirrus were you planning to transition direct through Brovo? If so, that ain't gonna happen! Say intentions". Quote
carusoam Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Will you be flying with Cpt. Thomas D. Callahan? He is a Rtd. Delta pilot with MAPA CFII experience. There are a lot of Delta guys with Mooney experience. This is the one I got to fly with back in 2012. Best regards, -a- Quote
Bryan Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Posted January 7, 2017 No, he is another Capt for Delta. He flies mostly international, I think, big jets. 1 Quote
Dham Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Congrats on your new to you 67' F. I too have a 67' F The more you learn about it the more you will love it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
kris_adams Posted January 7, 2017 Report Posted January 7, 2017 Welcome!! Sweet looking plane 1 Quote
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