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We talk a lot about safety and good "ADM" but are, apparently, quite ready to lose sight of that when convenient to our criticisms of a fellow pilot. Here, is a tale of two pilots: 1) Our subject pilot of this thread who stopped short of an intersecting runway because he was concerned with possible conflict and failed to know he did not have to. He exercised his ADM to make an unquestionably SAFE decision. 2) Jacob van Zanten who did not suffer from such indecision regarding the runway environment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Veldhuyzen_van_Zanten Result: 1) One pi$$ed off controller. One aircraft 'forced' to perform a go-around. No one put in any danger. 2) 583 dead in what remains the deadliest aviation accident in history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster#

I used to get really irritated at tower when they would say, "Plan no delay traffic close in behind you". When I was checking out new guys I would say, "You're up to bat, don't let them push you out of the batter's box". I would see so often guys land hard, slam on brakes and reverse throwing passengers all over the place just to appease the tower and the guy behind them (who probably was late slowing down). One it is your runway. Two it is your airplane. Three, your passengers. Four, yours or the company's brakes and tires. Tell me it is a Lifeguard or emergency aircraft, I'll even pull out of the pattern otherwise, leave me alone.

Although I have a TSO'd USB power source built into my panel, I use the cigarette lighter socket for auxiliary USB power, and found a nifty little adapter that also includes a carbon monoxide detector. The CO detector has a digital readout (blue LED between the two sockets) as well as a very loud buzzer that goes off if it detects the presence of CO. It's on whenever the master is on, and it works great. I tested it by lighting a match a few feet away when the aircraft was in the hangar. That triggered a warning in about 3 seconds when the indicator reached about 20 ppm. Had it for almost 3 years now. It's on Amazon for $34. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GCQR19G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

When we went from TCA's, ARSA's, and TRSA's, to class A,B,C,D,E,G, that was an improvement. With recent ICAO changes our "/g" transmogrophyed into all that PBN gobbledygook. It seems to me that this new NOTAM format is more of the same. They took what was modestly decipherable and FUBAR'd it into gibberish. Oh, and GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

I concur with your first statement unless price is the driving issue. I don’t know now but they used to be a good value. I love the old Hartzell as I had several contacts there, not so sure now though, gut says Hartzell is different now, but that’s not from experience. In particular the Hartzell composites are a “true” composite and great props, but at the price they cost they had better be While I have not myself tested any props on my aircraft, it’s my understanding from those that have that for cruise speed, nothing yet beats the Mac the factory put on the later J’s, and cruise speed is usually what most of us are after. It’s tough from what I have seen to significantly “improve” a J. You can spend a bunch of money trying though and it’s a normal human trait that you convince yourself after spending a lot of money that what you have is much better, when sometimes it’s not much difference.

One time I flew out of KMMU Morristown and the controllers are very busy in the area since it is generally in the vicinity of all the NYC traffic. About 10 years ago. I had an IFR flight plan despite severe clear as I often do in such airspaces and I picked it up on the ground. I waited for the controller to have time then he read it to me and I read it back, and it was reasonably complicated but I got it correctly. Then I departed and talked to the area controller who immediately was balling me out for going in the wrong direction and was just pissed at me and ordered me to hold in a circle pattern essentially in place which I did and I was polite. What was depressing is I indeed was doing correctly upon departure as the original flight plan given to me. He asked me where I was going and I told him the way point and he told me that was stupid and I should know what I am doing and he is too busy to deal with clueless pilots. I didnt loose my calm and stayed cool and was beginning the penalty hold he put me into. This is 2 min after departure and essentially within a minute of checking in with the controller. I thought I was about to get the phone number - I didnt talk back rudely and I was not speaking confused in anyway, but at that point another pilot, thankfully who had been listening to the whole thing including had heard me on the ground before I departed, and it was a CFI, spoke up and spoke on my behalf and said he heard the whole thing with the other controller and said indeed I was given those instructions and I was doing as ordered. AT that point the controller calmed a bit and told me to hold and he would get back to me and I confirmed I would hold. He left me in penalty laps no kidding for like 20 min then came back with an entirely different flight plan that seemed as if it was designed to be extra complicated and out of my way just to shove it to me, but I politely copied, read it back and then complied. 10 min later I was out of that controllers zone and on to the next controller and asked me why I had such a weird flight plan and shortly thereafter gave me something much more direct. I guess controllers can have a bad day too or a chip on their shoulder. It was an escalated situation and if I had come back angry right back at him I bet I would have gotten the phone number. That said, it was all on tape and I was confident that the controllers had made a mistake between themselves and I was good.

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Doesn’t seem that bad to me. 35 years ago we didn’t have Class A, B, C, D etc airspace. We had TCAs, ARSAs, TRSAs, etc. When they decided to change it, everybody complained but it wasn’t that bad. We also didn’t have METARs and TAFs. We had SAs and FTs. When they decided to change it, everybody complained but it wasn’t that bad.

Coriolis force. There is little it cannot do.

Are you worried about the avionics in the panel? If so, since the cigarette socket is fused, I'm curious what the risk you see is? Frankly, after seeing that guy's plane burn to the ground after he boarded with an external battery pack he'd dropped on the way to the plane, I find the cheap power adaptor to present far less risk

All, Thanks to life and avionics updates, I finally did my first step towards Arizona with a flight to Apple Valley (KAPV) on Saturday. It was certainly high DA, and bumpy on the way back. The cafe on airport looks to be closing its doors on October 20. The new G5s, GI-275 EIS and Century IIB worked great, I just need to better figure out my settings for speed vs efficiency for leaning. Next step is the leg to KPRC, maybe in the next couple of weeks! Thank you all for the help and encouragement so far! edit: Added flight plan and tracks @carusoam!

This conversation made me recall the following snippet I saw a month or so ago. Controllers are human, too :

It definitely goes to a fuse. And yes it's safe.

Just don’t do it at your home drome. They can carry a grudge for a long time.

Kogd (Ogden) tower has been terrible for this a few times. I came in one day and they were just screaming at a local helicopter pilot. Very unprofessional, but also a significant detractor from everyone else’s SA. I asked for the tower supervisors phone number and eventually talked to him (he wasn’t in the tower at the time). Im sure pilots (me too) do stupid stuff from time to time and a quick mention of “you missed 3 radio calls” or “when i say X i need you to acknowledge” is fine but screaming at someone is going to cause way more problems than it solves. Get or give a phone number and deal with it when everyone is safely at zero knots.

You didn't ask if you have ever chewed out ATC.

So what's the point of: Putting ZAU into the header of a NOTAM for ORD? It already tells us "ORD" is where it's at. Putting the actual information last??? The Q line is unnecessary government gibberish that no-one will ever wade through except when asked by the DPE on a checkride. I plan to ignore everything else until after I decide if it affects me. What needs to change with the NOTAM system is the huge number that we are buried with, and the important stuff like closed runways is often on page 8 or 9 of the 12-15 pages of stuff. I printed out everything once for a 2 hour flight from WV to KY, and had notams from Kansas to Boston to Miami . . . . . I don't do that anymore.

Buy a bottle of machinist's dye, a new, sharp machinist's scriber. Trace the old parts, make heavy paper or poster-board weight cardboard templates. Leave a bit of extra material for and fitting with files and a dremel tool, and go at it. It is time consuming but you will get a better fit it you work slowly, and it will just cost you for the aluminum. Make it a bit heavier than the ones made commercially, probably 0.090". John Breda

Your diligence and ability to pull all of these details from reports and accidents is incredible. I appreciate it…

This is some ancient ATC tape that likely has been altered (compressed). I think this happened over 15 years ago and the graphics are just someone's "artistic creation" - maybe the whole thing has been doctored to enhance someone's Youtuber subscription following. The idiot can't even spell Mooney...."Moony". I bet it is just a machine phonetically trolling ATC tapes. AI at work! The Future..... N3277F last flew 7 years ago in 2017, before it was scrapped and deregistered following a gear up. Additionally the graphics depict Republic Airport (KFRG) Farmingdale, New York (Matches the controllers accent). The last time that particular Mooney was owned and based in the NY area was 2010 when it was sold to a Texas owner. N3277F, a 1967 M20F, had a gear up landing at Farmington, New Mexico (KFMN) in July, 2017. If was then scrapped, auctioned, purchased by Texas Aircraft Salvage and deregistered upon dismantlement. This plane did not appear to be ADS-B out compliant. On the salvage form this hapless F had only "Narco MK12D, Narco AT150, Narco 890 DME, King KMD 150" for avionics. http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2017/07/mooney-m20f-n3277f-incident-occurred_7.html http://www.avclaims.com/N3277F.htm http://www.avclaims.com/n3277f_photos.htm

My thought is giving a phone number to have a discussion with cool heads and education for both the controller and the pilot is probably a good thing. Doesn't need to go any farther than that. ATC typically has plenty of room so this wasn't a "safety" issue, just a squeeze play that didn't work out. But for a touch and go to be frustrated with a go around??? That's just silly. Go arounds are probably what that pilot definitely needed more training on...probably most of us don't do that near as often as we should. But I hope that I'm never recorded sounding spiteful or making rude comments. It makes it harder for everyone on the freq to actually pay attention to what they're doing when these situations escalate. Probably more likely for mistakes or omissions to be made in more than just the aircraft involved. It's always like when you're having a conversation and there is a TV on in the room and the person you're talking too seems glued to it and you're sure they aren't "really" listening to you!

When you are in the batter's box, you swing the bat and unless you accepted a land and hold short clearance, you exit the runway when you feel it is safe to do so. The controller's irritation is because HIS plan did not work. You are not a slave to his plan unless you accepted a clearance to exit at a certain point. There is nothing here to show the airplane was at a safe speed to exit, only people irritated he did not exit when they wanted him to exit (their plan). In any event the airplane that had to go around was a T&G not an air ambulance.

If nothing was edited it appears to be a nonevent. I’d file a report call the number, the Bonanza pilot needs to take a chill pill along with the controller. Could have been a student pilot who had don’t cross runway’s without specific instructions to do so. This should be a nonevent.

Removing and installing panel-mount avionics is preventive maintenance. However, disconnecting the static line is not. So, if you plan to operate the airplane while the computer is removed, the strictly proper way to do this is to have a mechanic remove the computer, plug the static line, make a logbook entry, placard the circuit breaker and electric trim switch inop and, if you intend to fly IFR, perform a static leak test as required by 91.411.

Thank you for sharing your adventure in your Mooney. Brings to mind some great Mooney flying adventures for me along your routes. Enjoy each moment!

My bad. I can't read.....

For anyone with a hangar in the path of this storm, and it is progged to maintain at least TS winds all the way across the peninsula, it would be worthwhile to check the security of all the hangar doors in your building. People are often inattentive to the importance of throwing the bottom pins on sliders or bi-fold doors and side latches on bifold doors, and if one door fails, the likelihood of the whole building being lost goes up greatly. -dan

I can send you a link when I get home tonight. I have a really quality two USB plug that's all aluminum construction, very low profile, and has several EEs that did tests confirming very low noise. Zero issues and like you, was not willing to spend $600 for something I could do for $20.

Holy crap, after 30 years of commuting to KTUS, I just pulled up the airport diagram. They changed all the runway numbers and deleted a runway! I haven't been there in about 6 months. What is going on down there?

They're generally safe, easy to use, and easily removable if they do ever cause trouble. The expensive in-panel ones are generally just more expensive and not necessarily any "better" than plugging in a cheapie adapter. The main risk is whether they generate much rf noise that might interfere with radios or other avionics. I've looked at this a couple times, and the last time was four years ago and so newer devices may be different than what was tested. The bottom line every time I've tested this is that the cost and pedigree of the unit has little to do with how quiet it is in an rf sense, so just get something decent and if it gives you trouble get a different one. The quietest one I ever tested was a cheapie spiff giveaway unit branded with the name of a bank. http://ericjacobsen.org/Files/USB_Power_Supply_RF_analysis_3.pdf From here:

I got to attend one of the tours of our local TRACON, which was fun and educational. During the tour it came up about the occassional beat down from ATC, and they guys giving us the tour said, "yeah, it's really just one guy here," and most of us spontaneously replied something along the lines of, "yeah, we know the voice."

It has a GPS, but it's not certified for IFR.

Great news! More options are a good thing. The Dynon HDX + Avidyne IFD is a good combo (buddy has it in his RV-10). Hopefully we see this for long bodies in the near future.

I have Scottsdale tower on in my office pretty much all the time, and some of the interactions are enlightening. They will get on somebody's case from time to time, but usually it's after either a long chain of frustrations with a pilot or if somebody does something that compromises safety. Flying across final approach when they didn't expect you to will definitely get a conversation. One of the most memorable was in the other direction. A Cirrus pilot (of course) got upset because he felt like they'd made him do a 360 on downwind that wasn't necessary, and he just would not let it go. He was essentially telling them how to do their job. The controller was very patient and finally said they weren't going to discuss it on the radio any more and gave him a number to call, which he promised to do. I wish I could have heard that part, too.

I can see why that’s expensive. It seems super over engineered for what it is doing. My ram mount was inexpensive and does exactly what I wanted to do without fuss. Enjoy.

No. Some underscore this as using caution. The guy clearly needs additional training. A lot of humor in the “oh my” from the controller. It’s his runway to manage. You do something knuckleheaded that impacts safety and you better EXPECT a terse rebuke. I would. The comments by the pilots speak to their character. They have as much or more to learn than the Mooney driver imo.

Dynon uses color coded wires which makes it a bit easier. Start with good schematics and get a Brothers label printer, mine will print on heat shrink tubing. Also need a good DMC crimp tool (not cheap).

The Mooney pilot sounds like a noob who had a brain fart thinking he needed a clearance to cross an intersecting runway on the landing runway. We've all been that guy in some form or other early in our development. But he gets points for a calm professional demeanor on the radio despite his confusion and the unnecessary commotion on frequency. By contrast, the tower controller is being a d*ck over the Mooney pilot's mistake rather than simply doing his job of managing the conflict that's been created by it. And the Bonanza pilot is being a complete a-hole by ganging up on the Mooney pilot in response to the controller's inappropriate irritation plus the modest inconvenience created for him. His apparent bullying of another pilot on tower frequency makes him the one most deserving of a Brasher warning in my view. At the very least, he should have his Bonanza confiscated and be told he would better fit in with the Cirrus crowd.

Maybe that pilot is out of somewhere that issues LAHSO often and they just defaulted to that? Otherwise yeah kind of a weird reaction.

Totally agree that the controller could have handled that better. They do space things too tightly for my comfort at times as well. However, stopping on the runway upon landing to get permission to cross an intersecting runway is bizarre. Is it just me that thinks this is strange?

I don’t know what if anything was edited, but all I saw was a pilot stopping in the middle of a runway for no reason instead of exiting the runway without delay (AIM 4-3-21.). With another airplane in short final, I can understand the controller’s annoyance (without condoning the harshness). Apparently, the pilot incorrectly thought they had to stop for a crossing runway or receive a clearance to cross it. If it goes beyond the phone discussion with Tower, looks like a good Compliance Program candidate.

Probably not a type rating, but a Letter of Authorization.

Brian Kendrick did my WASS upgrade about 8 yrs. ago in my Ovation with the 310 hp and switched the settings in my G1000 software to the Ovation 3 which gave me 2700 RPM’s and allowed me to remove my digital tach.

You guys should team up. The key to wiring projects is to triple check your work, diagnosing wiring issues is difficult. Much better off taking the extra time up front to do it right.

I generally set a small shop vac on the wing, then the hose can reach just about everywhere except the baggage area.

Thank you Chris, the PMA8000BT was replaced by the PMA8000G. One major difference between the GMA345 and the PMA8000G (to the best of my knowledge) is the 8000G allows the pilot to remain on the intercom BUT be the only one that hears audio alerts from a device connected by Bluetooth. For $400 more the new PMA450C adds a second Bluetooth device, a great user interface (easy to use) with an OLED display and 3 soft keys. Both have our IntelliAudio, while the G has a 10 watt usb charger, the C has a 5 watt USB charger. Please free to call us, we enjoy speaking to fellow pilot and especially helping pilots match our audio panel for their plane and mission. Mark Scheuer PS Engineering

So you are also a new owner? How many seconds of prime to do give it and using which pump? I trust it has had the duel diverter removed? Continentals do not flood easily, they are in fact quite thirsty at startup.

Thank you Anthony! You as well! Look at my post for Dynon AP as well and send me an email please according to that. I am trying to get Dynon off of their hands and am working with one of their guys to get this hammered out.