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perhaps some single malt scotch would be best in this situation a Macallans goes best with fine leather. Look forward to the after pics

Papa X-Ray is officially sold. I flew her down to Don Maxwell yesterday, she passed with flying colors, and the new owner is flying her to N. Carolina today. He's already got a hangar and is starting his IFR soon so she will continue flying lots of hours. I put around 1100 great hours in the left seat. Adios girl, blue skies!

I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks in advance to PTK for some tips. Almost forgot the most important part ...

I would suggest a lager might be more appropriate than an IPA for this type of work.

They should have just STC a TIO360 as a drop in replacement.

Damn, I love that panel layout. GLWS

Anthony, here's a good place for the bar...

The last person to get in the plane is the one that hand propped it, while the pilot was holding on the brakes and engine controls. José

I just purchased my first aircraft, a 64 M20E! I never would have bet I'd be a Mooney owner but I think it's safe to say that this aircraft found me more than I found it. Over the last several months I have spent countless hours researching the aircraft and have gained a real respect for it's design. Enough respect I guess to jump in with both feet and my wallet ;-). The aircraft needs some engine work before I can get her back up in the air but outside of that she is a pretty solid aircraft. Will need an interior eventually as it appears to be original. As with most things of this nature I'm sure the list never truly ends but that is what makes it worth while... right? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Had a PPI yesterday at Lake Aero Styling and everything was A OK, so I brought it. 1984 M20k, next is 5 hrs duel for insurance and then 5 solo. Original paint that still shines, intercooler, Merlyn and spoiler brakes with King panel. Pritch Where the Redwoods meet the Pacific

For me the benefit would be better short field performance. As it is I'm not comfortable going to Block Island (2500') or Mattituck (2000'). I'm going to fly an O3 on Sunday. I'm curious to see what it's like. The other cost issue is the tach and other accessories. My Moritz guages have seen better days, but to replace them would probably be major panel surgery which would not be cheap. It's a bit of "while I'm there" syndrome. Since I'm now not sure I'll keep the plane (wife wants a chute or a second engine) I think I have to stick with what I have.

That's sounds like the Dallas North Tollroad. They were supposed to take out the toll stations when the road was paid for, but all we get is rate increases and more toll roads. Meanwhile, fuel taxes don't get spent on the roads. ...also sounds like the "Private" toll roads that are popping up all over Texas...

I've got the cigar lighter. My voltmeter is plugged into it, along with all the usb peripherals. A longer body would be nice from time to time, though. Luckily, at only 48 gallons, the rear pax are ready to get out and stretch their legs by the time we stop for gas.

Yes, the IO390...Lycoming's $60,000 answer to a question that no one ever asked.

The boat is cheaper....

Some great movies missing from this thread and some awful ones recurring. I was 11 when Top Gun hit the theatres. I thought it was awesome then, I actually find it difficult to watch now save for the aeriel footage ("the mig"...er..uh...F5 with a red Soviet star). The Battle of Brittain - one of the finest aviation movies ever produced. I don't think any movie before (maybe Howard Hughes Hells Angles) or since has as much real flying footage. It delivers in spades over and over again. The War Lover - Steve McQueen and lots of actual B17 footage including high speed low passes and a belly landing just for the film. 12'O'clock high - great story, well acted with great footage. movies to watch with SO: Always - Romantic film about water bomber. Great flick, Audrey Hepburns last film (still an elegant beauty at 60). For the Moment - obscure Canadian film staring Russell Crowe. Lots of excellent NA-16 Harvard footage. War time romance film about volunteers training to be bomber pilots in Manitoba in the early 40s. Beautifully shot and well acted. Honarable mention to "Fandango". Not an aviation film but a great coming of age flick with an awesome aviation sequence and sky diving scene.

Gorgeous aircraft, good luck with the sale.

I received a PM about the new ICAO flight plans and how to decipher ICAO codes. For the group, here are a couple of resources. 2 options. AOPA's flight planner as all the codes with very simple dropdowns so you can figure out what applies to you. See picture. All you have to do is go to AOPA home page, open the flight planner, tools, aircraft info and use the selector tools. Or just call member services at 800-872-2672. they can walk you through the ICAO process. Hope this helps

I listed my Ovation with Jimmy Garrison at All American. Call him or me if you have any questions. http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1405197/2000-mooney-m20r-ovation3?OHID=1405197 210-643-4161 lancecasper@me,com

At least Chris can use there undies for a plane cover when out of there barn and his hangar

The Right Stuff is one of my all time favorites. I met a military dentist that did a dental clearance check up for Chuck Yeager a few years ago. He was showing me pictures of him and Chuck Yeager on his iPhone. He told me Chuck Yeager offered to take him up in a F-16 but he declined. I just couldn't imagine passing up an opportunity of not only getting a ride in a F-16 but having Chuck Yeager as the pilot would be over the top.

Be sure to find out what is included. This can account for much variation in price. How does your engine get to the shop? what parts are replaced? which replacement parts are included? do they do anything to the accessories? If so, which ones? how is the engine test run before returning it to you? is return shipping included? how long are they quoting? (It will be longer) what warranty is offered? Labor only, parts too, must return there for work, fix anywhere, etc. check both calendar time and hours, it can make a difference. Just my musings from what I've heard and read. Hope it's a long while before I have personal experience. Good luck with yours,mans be sure to follow the breakin procedure they give you.

Correct to all three. Spending time on proper calibration is critical to the accuracy, given they are accurate to within about 1%. The wing gauges are indeed independent, and are only accurate on the ground, not in flight.

Including installation and calibration for CIES digital transmitters, plan 4 days. Their website also has fuel sender pricing listed now for various aircraft types including Mooneys. From their home page, choose menu items "Applications" --> "Aircraft" --> "Aircraft Kit Pricing"

https://www.jpinstruments.com/technical-support/gps-interface-connections/

Sounds like you had what may work out to be a very very expensive weekend outing with Clarence.

I didn't really out him... I wrote 'we have a guy.' then sent a PM to him. The best part. He is a Mooney guy with a technical background. The advertisement for the Monroy tanks is a simple graph of a flight. Speed verses distance. Non-stop vs. a single stop. More capacity is a speed mod. Only two in the plane? Get extended tanks, travel far! you know the voice that says 'traffic'. We know the family . Best regards, -a-

There is no 'separate' outer tank. If there was, the fuel selector would have separate detents for them. Some Ks have a second fuel cap on each wing. Using these, Less air gets trapped in the uphill section. Interesting choice that is available. The pilot can switch tanks based on time or on total fuel used. I used time based on tradition. But switching every 10 or 20 gallons used would make more sense to keep the load even through take-off, climb, and level flight. Do you J guys have two float sensors per wing? Best regards, -a-

Thanks. Your post was very logical. am thinking just like you are. I want acclaim performance but they are all G-1000. I have been flying 530/430 for years and would be happy with that. So I'm stuck for the moment. Maybe an ovation.

Well, if you want an Acclaim, I think your only option is G1000. If you buy an Ovation older than 2004 or so, then that will be non-G1000. I think only the absolute latest G1000 planes will be ADS-B equipped. Starting in about 2008 or so, they did have WAAS, but not ADS-B. So yes, there is still some uncertainty about how the older G1000 systems, either WAAS or non-WAAS, will ultimately get upgraded to full WAAS and ADS-B. And yes, it's true that we are relying on Mooney and Garmin to come up with the solutions and the pricing. However, the flip side of that coin is that if you are willing to live with some uncertainty, but put faith in the market forces and in Mooney and Garmin's statements that solutions will be forthcoming, then you can get a pretty good deal on a G1000 model and that uncertainty is reflected in the price. I can tell you that when I was looking around in 2014, I felt the market price of a non-WAAS Ovation 3 was well worth the uncertainty. Having Mooney on solid financial footing did help my decision, to be sure. And Garmin isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and there are enough these birds flying from Mooney, Beech, Diamond and Cessna that there is market force for a solution to be developed. It's three and a half years away, so something to consider, but no time for panic yet. And in the meantime, having flown with steam gauges first, then graduating to a plane with a nice GPS/MFD setup, and then to the G1000, I can tell you that the G1000 is absolutely superior to anything else out there for situational awareness, access to data during flight, etc. It is true that I don't have LPV approaches, and I guess if you plan on spending a lot of time flying hard core IFR and need that extra 150 feet of descent on a regular basis, then it is a consideration. On the other hand, with Synthetic Vision on that monstrous PFD screen, and a flight path marker pointing you to a runway that you can see and fly to like it's a CAVU day, I don't really miss LPV all that much. Hope that helps.

Late 2008 Mooney Ovation2 GX. 190+ KTS TAS. 280 HP IO550 Platinium. 310 TTSN, 2000 TBO. Always Hangared 9.99/10.00 Inside and Out. NDH. Beige Interior. Useful Load 1068 lbs. 100 gal Fuel Tanks (6+ Hours Range). It’s easier to describe what this airplane does not have first. It does not have AC, FIKI, or onboard Weather Radar. It has pretty much everything else. G1000, SVT, GFC 700, GDL69A (Full satellite weather, TFR’s, winds, etc., and XM Radio), Speed Brakes, Oxygen, Level II TCAS (L3 Skywatch), TAWS, Jepp Plates, Bose plugs front and rear, Bose Headsets Included, Precise Flight Pulse Lights (Very Cool), HID Landing and Taxi Lights, AMSafe Airbags, 406 ELT, rudder pedal extensions, tinted windows, ground charging system, plus all the standard features found in late model Ovations. Many Hangar Extras (Gas Tow, Jacks, etc...) 20,000 ft Service Ceiling. Current Annual and IFR Cert. No Squawks, Zero. Meticulously maintained by Mark and Tom Rouch at TopGun MSC in Stockton CA. This airplane is pristine, like new! NOW ASKING ONLY $349,000!!! (MooneySpace Only)

I would jump Jose and tell him to provide you a free fix.

I met Jose at MAPA in 1996 in Kerrville right after I bought a Bravo. In 1997 I called him and inquired about the LR tanks. I flew it over to FXE and he flew me back to ORL. A week later I picked it up. That should be one of the first options any Mooney owner considers. It makes the airplane so much more flexible in flight planning (weather, winds, etc.) In just my brief dealings with him I could see what a wealth of knowledge there was there and on top it, a great guy. When I joined Mooneyspace I recognized him, PMed him. I wanted to let him be anonymous until Anthony outed him yesterday . .lol. In light of this I think Jose's next great STC can now be announced - the Monroy Long Range Catheter for those with LR tanks. As the LR tanks drain, so does yours and there's an option to use it for de-icing (Inadvertent not FIKI).

Is that after you rub sticks together to create fire? [emoji1] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Yeah....pity the poor, low-time student pilots that had to do high-performance AND complex checkout with their first 10 hours!

Yes, back in 1985. Quite an experience getting them FAA approved. 49 spins with full fuel (100 gals) and sand bags for aft CG for flight testing. José

I'm signed up. Hope to make a side trip Friday or Monday to Kerrville while we're in TX.

I prefer Hot Shots over Top Gun!

Don't forget "The Final Countdown" the first movie to feature the F-14 - The USS Nimitz goes through a storm near Hawaii and ends up time travelling back to December 6, 1941. Very neat movie. A remake could be pretty cool. Kirk Doublas, Martin Sheen, fun movie. -Seth

None better than "The High and the Mighty" with John Wayne. I can hear him whistling the tune right now.

I can vouch for the owner, a personal friend, and the plane which transported us on many a fun ride. And Chase Aviation helped me sell my J in 2014, so they are a fair and honest group to work with. This will be a nice new family member for some lucky buyer. And it will help Leigh pay off his boat! So he's getting rid of at least one of the three "F's" in his life. You know, "if it floats, flies or (expletive deleted), rent it!"

Gattica. Not much flying, but for all us pilots that had obstacles to overcome. Priceless.

High Road to China. Early Tom Selleck

I'm told she's much more practical these days, hangs out with old Mooney pilots mostly

Your welcome to Mooneydom will be much more fun than martyrdom. If you want, you can have virgins, too, but you must supply your own . . . Have lots of fun, and fly safe! You will never look at the 182 the same way again. In flight, you won't look at it unless you install a rear view mirror.

I'll keep reminding Avidyne that the easiest to target market is those of us that have already shown a willingness to break with Garmin by investing in something like the Lynx! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

When I was doing my commercial I found the Mooney to be pretty easy to do the accuracy landings. I used the touchdown bars as my aiming point and found that beginning the flare three center line stripes prior would put me right on the markers provided I was on speed and altitude. Speed control was critical to reliably hitting the mark. as others have said I cut the power abeam the touchdown point, gear down, flaps 15 and start the turn. Then full flaps if it looks good and slip as needed. Pulling the prop out was used to salvage a low approach which I had to do on the actual test and landed about 30 into the 200' allowance. the accuracy landings were fun. I never got the hang of lazy eights. Lee

Well, 10 hours later I had a big mess on the hanger floor but everything was out and cleaned up. Now to get the new stuff installed!!!!!!!

Time to consider a trade in if you have had an F for twenty plus years. The JPI and Aspen Instruments may be really familiar already. Good luck with the sale, Lance. She is beautiful. Best regards, -a-