bcg Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? Don't get me wrong, I love my Mooney but sometimes I look at all the avionics and other options available for Experimental at 1/2 the cost and I get a little jealous. That certificate definitely adds some ownership expense... Quote
DCarlton Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, bcg said: What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? Don't get me wrong, I love my Mooney but sometimes I look at all the avionics and other options available for Experimental at 1/2 the cost and I get a little jealous. That certificate definitely adds some ownership expense... For me, it would have to be something very different than a Mooney. A high wing (Vans, Sling, Glastar), or an RV-8 or a Velocity. A completely different experience. Always "dreamed" about a Berkut. Even visited the factory once. Wish they could have kept that going and made it easy to build. 1 Quote
Greg Ellis Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 Since I fly by myself I guess I could consider something like a Curtiss P-40 or a P-51 in the same mission category.... But I think maybe a Pipestrel Panthera, even though I know nothing about them and they may be terrible airplanes...they look cool and fly fast. Or maybe a Lancair of some sort. I would avoid the Vans Aircraft line of planes just because I don't want to look dorky with my gear always hanging out... 2 Quote
Hank Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, bcg said: What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? There are very few 4-place Experimentals . . . And even fewer with reasonable fuel burn / mileage. Even my old C gets 15+ nmpg. My wife can't travel for a weekend with less luggage space than is provided by my back seat and baggage area, stacked to the ceiling. That eliminates many, many Experimentals, and the 500+ AMUs to purchase some that may work eliminates many more. 2 Quote
carusoam Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 I would want to go to the next level… and follow Turbine Tom in his Lanceair… I’m not a big fan of Experiemntal… but Lanceair is certainly one of the best… The person doing the building… has a huge impact on the final result… Best regards, -a- Quote
Bolter Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 In terms of similarly capable to several Mooney models (speed, range, useful load, 4 place) I think the RV-10 is a good candidate. It is cheaper than very new long bodies, but more expensive than most Mooney's. -dan 2 Quote
StevenL757 Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, bcg said: What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? Without a doubt... (courtesy of Controller) 5 Quote
carusoam Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 The evolution appears extra big… Might be the long legs it is standing on… Best regards, -a- Quote
MooneyMitch Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, StevenL757 said: Without a doubt... (courtesy of Controller) Oh, yes! It’d have to have some substantial red paint though 3 Quote
EricJ Posted February 6, 2023 Report Posted February 6, 2023 RV-10 if I really needed four seats, otherwise RV-14. Quote
Culver LFA Posted February 7, 2023 Report Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Whenever I look at a RV10 I think that would be a great replacement for my 67 F, but when I step away and look at the much higher acquisition costs, the build time, higher fuel burn for the same speed, and lower baggage compartment weight capacity, I am happy to keep my old Mooney another year. While a new experimental with all the wizz bang electronics would be nice, I just want to fly and a lightweight 67 F with manual gear/flaps and a couple simple ADs sure is hard to improve upon. Edited February 7, 2023 by Culver LFA 10 Quote
Canadian Gal Posted February 9, 2023 Report Posted February 9, 2023 https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php Quote
Hank Posted February 9, 2023 Report Posted February 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Canadian Gal said: https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php Holy crap! Can you imagine that with the 1400 hp turbine???? 1 Quote
Jerry 5TJ Posted February 9, 2023 Report Posted February 9, 2023 I’m starting to think about selling the turboprop and getting a LSA or similar experimental. Fixed gear. Rotax. 2 Quote
Planegary Posted February 9, 2023 Report Posted February 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Canadian Gal said: https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php I like the way you think. The Mustang has always been my favorite aircraft.now if I could only win the lottery….. Quote
carusoam Posted February 10, 2023 Report Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Canadian Gal said: https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php Quote
carusoam Posted February 10, 2023 Report Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Hank said: Holy crap! Can you imagine that with the 1400 hp turbine???? How much transition training would be required for that much hp? 1) A week… 2) A month… 3) A year… All the excess HP… + it’s a tail wheel… The torque effects must be huge… Rotating wind stream at a maximum… and the Coriolis affect as the tail wheel rises… T/O procedure probably includes dance steps of a salsa dance… on the rudders… Sounds like a blast! Best regards, -a- Quote
aviatoreb Posted February 10, 2023 Report Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, carusoam said: How much transition training would be required for that much hp? 1) A week… 2) A month… 3) A year… All the excess HP… + it’s a tail wheel… The torque effects must be huge… Rotating wind stream at a maximum… and the Coriolis affect as the tail wheel rises… T/O procedure probably includes dance steps of a salsa dance… on the rudders… Sounds like a blast! Best regards, -a- How long did it take them to train pilots from zero experience to combat theater in a P51 in WWII? That is such an interesting airplane. If I were just a little more nutty - I would get one! Quote
carusoam Posted February 11, 2023 Report Posted February 11, 2023 13 hours ago, aviatoreb said: How long did it take them to train pilots from zero experience to combat theater in a P51 in WWII? That is such an interesting airplane. If I were just a little more nutty - I would get one! Not enough… Those boys had their orders, tools, and fuel… training was on the fly… What my mis-worded question was intended to mean… How much time it would it take ME to learn to fly a beast like that..! It has some upside… 1) Plenty of HP 2) Composite construction of a laminar wing…. Extra smooooth. Need to look up the cruise speed for that…! and see if the prop can be put in beta mode… for braking. Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
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