New pilot looking at a '75 M20F

[Yetti]

If you are serious about a plane spend $15.00 and get the CD from the FAA on that particular plane.

[tmo]

  On 1/5/2020 at 10:01 PM, Yetti said:

If you are serious about a plane spend $15.00 and get the CD from the FAA on that particular plane.

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I've heard that an AP/IA can download all that data without waiting for the CD to arrive.  I'm still waiting on mine, but I am on the wrong side of the pond.

Huh, out of likes for the day I am.

Edited January 7, 2020 by tmo

[PhateX1337]

  On 1/7/2020 at 11:15 AM, tmo said:

I've heard that an AP/IA can download all that data without waiting for the CD to arrive.  I'm still waiting on mine, but I am on the wrong side of the pond.

Huh, out of likes for the day I am.

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Thanks - helpful. Is it usual to ask for this to be done as part of prebuy, or should I ask them to pull it before getting to that point?

[Yetti]

  On 1/7/2020 at 2:48 PM, PhateX1337 said:

Thanks - helpful. Is it usual to ask for this to be done as part of prebuy, or should I ask them to pull it before getting to that point?

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People have different views.   The FAA CD has the ownership history and the 337s for the plane which is kind of a check and balance for what the seller is telling you.    So the seller says "No Damage History"    The CD says that the belly panels and a couple of flap hinges were replaced.

Which brings us to the AD list.   

Annual and Pre buy should have an updated AD list reviewed and performed and as the owner you are the one responsible that ADs are complied with.    My IA sent me home with homework to do the AD list for the plane.  It took me about 4 hours to complete.  At the end there were several that I needed his experience to figure out.

What's on a pre buy.  What you say is on a pre buy.   There are some good examples to say what should be on a prebuy in the downloads section of this site.

[eman1200]

I thought the CD was $10.....anyways, I bought the CD for my plane then realized I don't have a cd player in my laptop.  duh.

[Stephen]

  On 1/7/2020 at 4:42 PM, eman1200 said:

I thought the CD was $10.....anyways, I bought the CD for my plane then realized I don't have a cd player in my laptop.  duh.

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.035AMU and you are in business  : https://www.amazon.com/Rioddas-External-Portable-Rewriter-Superdrive/dp/B07DLRG9VH/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=usb+dvd+drive&qid=1578415742&sr=8-3 

 

[tmo]

  On 1/7/2020 at 4:42 PM, eman1200 said:

I thought the CD was $10.....anyways, I bought the CD for my plane then realized I don't have a cd player in my laptop.  duh.

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They could have probably faxed it to you, for $0.25 per page...

[rbridges]

  On 1/7/2020 at 4:42 PM, eman1200 said:

I thought the CD was $10.....anyways, I bought the CD for my plane then realized I don't have a cd player in my laptop.  duh.

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find someone who does and have them load it onto a flash drive

[eman1200]

  On 1/7/2020 at 5:41 PM, rbridges said:

find someone who does and have them load it onto a flash drive

Lol yup. I’m partially capable of figuring this dilemma out. I was more pointing out the comical aspect of it.

And FAX machine, why didn’t I think of that!

[Hank]

  On 1/7/2020 at 5:43 PM, eman1200 said:

And FAX machine, why didn’t I think of that!

 

 

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Then you could scan it into your laptop!     Complete with fuzz and distortion from the phone lines . . . . .

[rbridges]

  On 1/7/2020 at 5:43 PM, eman1200 said:

 

Lol yup. I’m partially capable of figuring this dilemma out. I was more pointing out the comical aspect of it.

 

 

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well, I saw an opportunity to look smart on the internet so I jumped on it.  

[PhateX1337]

 

  On 1/7/2020 at 7:21 PM, rbridges said:

well, I saw an opportunity to look smart on the internet so I jumped on it.  

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I feel so well equipped to request my FAA files now! 

[Yetti]

Just have the person fax the CD over to your fax machine.         Funny story we had a 3.5 inch floppy we had to walk across the street.    One day I faxed both sides over.   Then when the asked what they were supposed to do with it.   I walked across the street.   Took some scissors cut out both sides.  Taped them together and said "there" and turned and walked away.

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[Marauder]

  On 1/7/2020 at 7:21 PM, rbridges said:

well, I saw an opportunity to look smart on the internet so I jumped on it.  

Got news for you smarty pants. SDs, CDs, flash drives, USB drives and all the rest are old news. It’s now all in the cloud baby. Just not sure who’s cloud.



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[Yetti]

  On 1/7/2020 at 9:15 PM, Marauder said:

 

Got news for you smarty pants. SDs, CDs, flash drives, USB drives and all the rest are old news. It’s now all in the cloud baby. Just not sure who’s cloud.



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I caught myself saying Jazz drive the other day.   The cloud only has a 2 nine SLA.   Are you ok with your refinery being down for day?

[Hank]

  On 1/7/2020 at 9:15 PM, Marauder said:

Got news for you smarty pants. SDs, CDs, flash drives, USB drives and all the rest are old news. 

 

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Yep. Can't use any of them at work, even though suppliers still provide CDs witb valuable system information on them . . . . No CS drives on our laptops, and the USB ports are all disabled. 

[tmo]

  On 1/7/2020 at 9:15 PM, Marauder said:

It’s now all in the cloud

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Not if you're not instrument rated it ain't...

[DonMuncy]

  On 1/7/2020 at 9:18 PM, Hank said:

Yep. Can't use any of them at work, even though suppliers still provide CDs witb valuable system information on them . . . . No CS drives on our laptops, and the USB ports are all disabled. 

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Your employer(s) is sure paranoid. I would be tempted to get some computer genius to help me un-disable one of them or something, just to know that I could foil their system.

[carusoam]

Wait til you have to break out your fax machine to send medical records between doctor’s offices...

Just to get your a Class III med SI’d... 

Funky standard left over from yesterday...

Best regards,

-a-

[Marauder]

  On 1/7/2020 at 10:38 PM, DonMuncy said:

Your employer(s) is sure paranoid. I would be tempted to get some computer genius to help me un-disable one of them or something, just to know that I could foil their system.

It’s the norm for many industries not to allow any kind of plug in memory devices. We can use them but they need to have the corporate encryption loaded on them. Other companies, like the bank my wife works for won’t allow them at all.


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[MikeOH]

  On 1/7/2020 at 10:38 PM, DonMuncy said:

Your employer(s) is sure paranoid. I would be tempted to get some computer genius to help me un-disable one of them or something, just to know that I could foil their system.

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You'd lose your job at my company if you tried that stunt.  They are pretty serious about security (DOD contracts)

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[Skates97]

  On 1/7/2020 at 9:18 PM, Hank said:

Yep. Can't use any of them at work, even though suppliers still provide CDs witb valuable system information on them . . . . No CS drives on our laptops, and the USB ports are all disabled. 

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  On 1/8/2020 at 1:34 AM, Marauder said:

 

It’s the norm for many industries not to allow any kind of plug in memory devices. We can use them but they need to have the corporate encryption loaded on them. Other companies, like the bank my wife works for won’t allow them at all.

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We had someone plug a phone in to a usb port to charge it. The phone had a virus on it that didn't affect the phone but when it was plugged in it got into the network. Took down almost all the computers at one of the dealerships and the store was out of business for a little over a full day. The price of the After that event we now have software/hardware that disables the usb ports on almost all the computers at the dealerships, as well as more control over what sites can be browsed and the anti-virus system on each machine. Only a few of us still have full access to everything on our machines.

[Yetti]

stuxnet virus

[gsxrpilot]

I've been making my living in the field of cyber security for the last 25 years or so. But I've thrown in the towel so to speak. Industrial systems can be air gapped to provide a certain level of security. But consumers are stuck with the Internet we have. So I've given up on trying to secure data and moved to the issue of data privacy. No one in the general public even believes that their data can be secured or protected. So the new approach is to ask why a company has our data to start with and what exactly does it have. California CPA is just the beginning of a wave of data privacy legislation that will return control of personal data back to the consumer. Because whatever data a company holds, it's sure to lose.

[Skates97]

  On 1/8/2020 at 4:04 AM, gsxrpilot said:

I've been making my living in the field of cyber security for the last 25 years or so. But I've thrown in the towel so to speak. Industrial systems can be air gapped to provide a certain level of security. But consumers are stuck with the Internet we have. So I've given up on trying to secure data and moved to the issue of data privacy. No one in the general public even believes that their data can be secured or protected. So the new approach is to ask why a company has our data to start with and what exactly does it have. California CPA is just the beginning of a wave of data privacy legislation that will return control of personal data back to the consumer. Because whatever data a company holds, it's sure to lose.

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Complete thread hijack...

Ah, the CCPA. I have a 190 page compliance manual that is just the tip of the iceberg to try and begin to be compliant. Even the lawyers don't quite know everything that needs to be done and the implications of it.