laytonl Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 What life are y’all seeing from Concorde AGM batteries? I’m curious if others are removing batteries based on age or load test data. i just changed mine out after six years. It was running fine; I’m just nervous because I never had an aircraft battery last more than 3 years. I plan to build a test box to load test the battery but haven’t done so and it has never been load tested. Since 2013 I have drained this battery twice due to leaving cabin lights on. I have sporadically used an off-brand trickle charger. these are great batteries, lee Quote
MB65E Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 Going on 7 years, during that time it sat for over 12mo with no use. Just put 27 tach hours on back from Oshkosh. Voltage regulator in cruise is 13.9-14.0. I’ll probably cap check it shortly. I don’t think it’s ever been lower that 11.8 when resting for a long time. Intermittent charging with a battery charger at 2ah from time to time. -Matt Quote
carusoam Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 I think I remember an MSer saying six years before changing it out... just because... So I bought two for the O... My Gills would croak, one each year... netting two years on each battery. I paid extra for the Gill battery charger to see if it could help stem the tide... Anyone want a Gill Battery charger? Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Hank Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 My Concorde battery starts cranking a little slow on Summer #6 if I don't fly often. Bought the Mooney June 07, put in first Concorde in Summer 08?, replaced it proactively due to limited summer flying and a scheduled trip to no-service field in W. NC in Sept. '15. Still going strong! And no danger to my battery box, either. 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 My Gills lasted 3 years, my Concord is 2 years old but last start it seemed a little slow (spent the week outside in the heat), I may change it after 3 years as well. AOG because I was being super cheap doesn’t sound smart to me. I need reliability.Tom Quote
RogueOne Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 Just bought two RG35’s for new Missile. Old batteries still functioned and MAY have been alright, but had sat for six years, so we replaced them at a cost of approx 3/4 of an AMU for two. My RG35X/C is still going strong 6+ years with no hint of issue. I agree this is a LONG time for a batttery to function well, but...They do. Quote
Yetti Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 4 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: My Gills lasted 3 years, my Concord is 2 years old but last start it seemed a little slow (spent the week outside in the heat), I may change it after 3 years as well. AOG because I was being super cheap doesn’t sound smart to me. I need reliability. Tom I said something the same to the grumpy IA..... He said have you charged it recently. I facepalmed and backed slowly away.... Quote
EricJ Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 Most lead-acid batteries, like the Gills and Concordes that we use, benefit from conditioning, desulfating, etc., which doesn't happen during normal charge cycles. I suspect the people that get the most life from their batteries keep them on conditioners at least occasionally (e.g., tenders, minders, etc.). Quote
jaylw314 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 My Concord is 6+ years old now, and sat around a lot for half its life. It cranks fine, but that's not a good reflection of its condition. Cranking only consumes a couple percent of its nominal capacity at the most. The real value of having a battery is keeping your stuff going when the alternator fails in IMC. Of course, if your battery is having difficulty with cranking under normal circumstances, that suggests a battery that is in pretty terrible condition. I keep reminding myself I need to get one of those cheap hobby chargers for RC models to do a capacity test. Most of them have a discharge setting, where you can set it to discharge a fixed number of amp-hours. That way, you could discharge 10 amp-hours and measure the no-load voltage afterwards and get an idea of the % capacity change. Quote
PT20J Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 This is a great question. But, the answers are not terribly consistent unless you specify whether or not you use a battery minder, how often you fly, whether the battery has ever been left deeply discharged, and that end of life is determined by failure to pass a capacity test, not just ability to crank the engine. Skip Quote
thinwing Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 over 10 years on my #2 when I replaced it last year...#1 was Cal pilots silent auction bidding against Mitch...5/6 years ago...both never drained and on constant battery minder speced for Concorde agm 1 Quote
Danb Posted August 14, 2019 Report Posted August 14, 2019 I changed both mine(Concorde) out of guilt a few years after 8 years of no issues, I never used a battery minder nor ran them down, my current concordes are both perfect after about 3-4 years. 3 Quote
Raptor05121 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Posted August 15, 2019 Going on year 4 with my Concorde RG-35AXC. Last time I did a capacitance check, it was almost as good as new. I fly 3-5 hours a week, no external charger. 1 Quote
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