mooneyflyfast Posted August 16, 2018 Report Posted August 16, 2018 Never used Tempest filters before. Today I tried to install a 48103 Tempest oil filter and was surprised that my 1" six point socket would not fit over the hex. No other way to tighten or torque it on my J model that I could figure out. No more Tempest filters for me. Been using Champions with 0 problems for years. Quote
KSMooniac Posted August 16, 2018 Report Posted August 16, 2018 Try a 12 pt... My combo wrench and oil filter torque wrench both fit fine. Tempest is making great products while Champion was resting on their back end and letting quality slip, so only tempest for me.Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk 7 Quote
N231BN Posted August 16, 2018 Report Posted August 16, 2018 Must be tolerance stacking, I have never had a problem. 1 Quote
jaylw314 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Posted August 16, 2018 I've only used a box wrench (1") and crescent wrench on the oil filters. I imagine the thick paint may get in the way of a socket wrench. Of course, there's no way you'd fit a socket wrench behind my IO-360 anyway... 1 Quote
StevenL757 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, KSMooniac said: Try a 12 pt... My combo wrench and oil filter torque wrench both fit fine. Tempest is making great products while Champion was resting on their back end and letting quality slip, so only tempest for me. Ditto....and agree. To the OP - Give Tempest a fair chance. Their customer support is impeccable; to which several others on here have attested, and I can also confirm. Steve 1 Quote
orionflt Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, KSMooniac said: Try a 12 pt... My combo wrench and oil filter torque wrench both fit fine. Tempest is making great products while Champion was resting on their back end and letting quality slip, so only tempest for me. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk +1 for tempest 1 Quote
Hank Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 I also have never had a problem with Champion CH-48110 oil filters in the last 11 years. But I use a 1" box end wrench, as there is no room to put a socket wrench behind my O-360. In fact, there is barely room to unscrew the filter . . . 2 Quote
EricJ Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 Crows foot works, too. The Tempest filters are awesome, especially with the pre-lubed gaskets. 1 Quote
eman1200 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 Crows foot works, too. The Tempest filters are awesome, especially with the pre-lubed gaskets. I recently used a 1” crows foot wrench on the champion and it worked great. It looks like I might have enough room for a stubby 1” socket which I’d prefer but the crows foot worked just fine. 1 Quote
RobertGary1 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 I think this is a one off problem. I’ve never had a problem getting a 1” box end on there. Crows foot would work but not as easy to get on. -Robert is 1 Quote
xcrmckenna Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 I’ll check to see what point socket I used but it fit no problem. Then I upgraded to the Tempest torque wrench. It’s perfect for the tight space. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote
MBDiagMan Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 Will a slight tap on the socket not seat it? I have used Tempest filters on both my planes exclusively with no issue. 1 Quote
Raptor05121 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 1" crows foot is the way to go. I love Tempest. Pre-lubed gasket, internal magnet, and its $2-4 cheaper than Champion. 1 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 There's not room behind my IO360 for a socket. And the filter is supposed to be torqued to 16-18 ft lb so I use something like this. It works fine with my torque wrench on Tempest filters. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/1201675.php?clickkey=32916 Quote
xcrmckenna Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 It’s expensive but works great to take the filter off and on. http://m.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/AA472.php?clickkey=655613Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote
Bryan Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 +1 for Tempest. I have this socket and it fits perfect every time. I chose this one since it is not very deep. I don't think I will go back to Champion filters or plugs on my bird. 1 Quote
eman1200 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Bob_Belville said: There's not room behind my IO360 for a socket. And the filter is supposed to be torqued to 16-18 ft lb so I use something like this. It works fine with my torque wrench on Tempest filters. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/1201675.php?clickkey=32916 be careful....adding length to the torque bar changes the actual torque. there may be better explanations online, but take a look at this vid: Quote
RLCarter Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, xcrmckenna said: It’s expensive but works great to take the filter off and on.http://m.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/AA472.php?clickkey=655613 It's only expensive once 2 Quote
RLCarter Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 If you don't feel like doing the math, clocking the crows foot 90° will get you close, but they are wrong. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 You guys make this far more complicated than it needs to be.. -Robert 1 Quote
Bryan Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 Yes, have one of those, too, for removing the filter but what about torquing it back on? Quote
eman1200 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bryan said: Yes, have one of those, too, for removing the filter but what about torquing it back on? torque wrench + 1" stubby socket and you're set. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 I did not think I had to tell you A&P wannabees that torque is a product of length times weight. (That's implied in "foot pounds".) When I torque the filter the "wrench extension" is ~90 deg to the handle. But there are many other dos and don'ts for using all kinds of tools. Be careful out there. Quote
Marauder Posted August 17, 2018 Report Posted August 17, 2018 It’s expensive but works great to take the filter off and on. http://m.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/AA472.php?clickkey=655613Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I bought one too. Works great. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote
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