peevee Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Just now, KLRDMD said: They are obviously different airplanes with different missions and purposes. That's my point. The only thing comparable to what I have is the esp or iv or something like that, they're all like 300k+ I want an experimental high altitude cross country machine. Quote
KLRDMD Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Just now, peevee said: That's my point. The only thing comparable to what I have is the esp or iv or something like that, they're all like 300k+ I want an experimental high altitude cross country machine. This is the same price range as a Rocket: https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1250129/1999-lancair-iv Quote
peevee Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, KLRDMD said: This is the same price range as a Rocket: https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1250129/1999-lancair-iv That's a beauty. Quote
orionflt Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 it's non pressurized but that is a good price. not flown a lot, less then 50 hour a yr average. would be worth looking at for any one who has an interest. make sure you get proper training, it's a lot of airplane..... but fun. 90 kts on final Brian 1 Quote
Greg_D Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 I sent an email to the seller on eBay asking about any damage history, etc. He replied that there was minor wingtip damage that had been repaired by Don Maxwell’s mechanic. Quote
orionflt Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Just now, Greg_D said: I sent an email to the seller on eBay asking about any damage history, etc. He replied that there was minor wingtip damage that had been repaired by Don Maxwell’s mechanic. LOL if the outboard 2/3rds of the wing being replaced is MINOR, I want to know what he considers major! 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Greg_D said: I sent an email to the seller on eBay asking about any damage history, etc. He replied that there was minor wingtip damage that had been repaired by Don Maxwell’s mechanic. Wow that's a big wingtip Quote
Greg_D Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 He just replied to my comment about the “wingtip”: Quote
Andy95W Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Those look like two different airplanes. I find it doubtful that someone would apply an earlier paint style to an M20M before repairing the wing "tip". All that said, I'd trust the DMax repair. Quote
Greg_D Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Andy95W said: Those look like two different airplanes. I find it doubtful that someone would apply an earlier paint style to an M20M before repairing the wing "tip". All that said, I'd trust the DMax repair. It was painted after the repair. And it wasn’t a “DMax” repair. It was done by a guy who used to work for Don. Quote
orionflt Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 I have seen the log entries, not very informative! didn't see the name of the guy he said did the repair anywhere, but he also never shared a copy of the 337 either. Quote
peevee Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Greg_D said: It was painted after the repair. And it wasn’t a “DMax” repair. It was done by a guy who used to work for Don. when I picked up our airplane I put the toilet lid down after I peed. I guess I worked for don now too! 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted July 1, 2017 Report Posted July 1, 2017 21 hours ago, Andy95W said: Those look like two different airplanes. I find it doubtful that someone would apply an earlier paint style to an M20M before repairing the wing "tip". All that said, I'd trust the DMax repair. Look at the N number - same airplane, much discussion and many more pictures about the wing and the paint earlier in this thread Quote
Greg_D Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 On 6/30/2017 at 0:26 AM, Andy95W said: Those look like two different airplanes. I find it doubtful that someone would apply an earlier paint style to an M20M before repairing the wing "tip". All that said, I'd trust the DMax repair. It was painted after the repair. And it wasn’t a “DMax” repair. It was done by a guy who used to work for Don. Quote
Greg_D Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 Does anyone know exactly why the OP passed on the airplane? He said the buyer misrepresented it. I sent the OP an email, but he never responded. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 It's baaaack . . http://www.ebay.com/itm/93-MOONEY-TLS-BRAVO-1700-TT-ABSOLUTE-STEAL-NO-RESERVE-/122604328619?hash=item1c8bc996ab:g:0ioAAOSwo4pYf~Q9&vxp=mtr 1 Quote
smccray Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 If you have to call it an absolute steal... oh- nevermind- free local pickup!!! Quote
Greg_D Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 On 6/30/2017 at 0:26 AM, Andy95W said: Those look like two different airplanes. I find it doubtful that someone would apply an earlier paint style to an M20M before repairing the wing "tip". All that said, I'd trust the DMax repair. It was painted after the repair. And it wasn’t a “DMax” repair. It was done by a guy who used to work for Don. Quote
Greg_D Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 Wow, he started the bidding a lot lower this time. It’s currently at $86K, and its a no-reserve auction. Quote
Godfather Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 I was actually thinking last week that 80 could probably bring home that aircraft. IMO the plane is a good deal in the 80's...a lot of aircraft for the dollar. Quote
orionflt Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Greg_D said: Wow, he started the bidding a lot lower this time. It’s currently at $86K, and its a no-reserve auction. still 26k too high, if i bought it i would plan on replacing the wing plus an engine overhaul. Quote
Greg_D Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 I wonder why the OP still won’t answer with what he found wrong. I sent him a PM and never got an answer that way either. Does anyone know the story? 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 15 hours ago, Greg_D said: Wow, he started the bidding a lot lower this time. It’s currently at $86K, and its a no-reserve auction. In previous auctions people would bid, it "sold', but then it's back on the market again. Very likely that shill bidding was used where a "friend" will put in a bid for you to drive up the price or make the auction seem legitimate. This time he used a private auction where the bidder's identities are hidden. What would give him legitimacy is if he disclosed the previous damage in the description with pictures - then people could make a decision based on that. Quote
Greg_D Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 The seller has been emailing me over the last few weeks. He did send me pictures of the wing undergoing repair along with pics of the logbook entries, although those were unreadable due to the poor resolution they were taken in. I did hint that I knew something about the damage history. He says the plane has never been “sold” as each of the auction winners could not come up with the money after winning. He didn’t have any kind words to say about the Mooney Space forum and its users. In fact, all of his emails had a very abrasive tone! I suspect that has as much to do with the plane not selling as much as the damage history. In one email, he claimed that a broker was taking over and selling it for $140K. He won’t answer what happened with that, but keeps asking me to call him. Quote
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