Jump to content

KI 300 pushed to 3rd quarter '16

Godfather

By Godfather
in Avionics/Panel Discussion

 Share

Recommended Posts

Godfather Proficient

Godfather

Posted
Posted

Kind of bummed but according to BK the certification for the KI 300 is not expected until the third quarter this year.  I know a lot of individuals have lost faith in the time frame predictions but I was really looking forward to an announcement today talking about units shipping.

  • Like 1
Bob - S50 Grand Master

Bob - S50

Posted
Posted

Murphy's law for time estimation:

Make a reasonable estimate.

Divide numeric portion in half.

Increase units by one.

3 months becomes 1.5 years.

StevenL757 Grand Master

StevenL757

Posted
Posted
On 4/6/2016 at 11:26 PM, gsengle said:

Just hope it's done before I need another gyro overhaul...

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agree that BK needs to get their stuff together.  I finally start my big upgrade a week from Monday (4/18), and had a KI300 on one of the quote versions, but have changed scope several times.  Am now fortunate enough to work in the G500 and the equipment under the original scope we established almost a year ago.  A year.  I know.  Life got in the way, but we're now moving forward.

Not sure what your long-term plans are, but certainly hope the KI300 is available for you before too many more delays.  Q3 - unbelievable.

Guest Mike261

Guest Mike261

Posted
Posted

Disappointing. Dynon can get their STC done, while a giant corporation like honeywell can't get it done even with a new FAA rule encouraging a direct replacement electric attitude indicator. (mated to BK's own legacy equipment, which seems like  slam dunk) The certification of the KSN 770 was a protracted affair and they had to be bailed out by another company to get it done. What is the deal over at BK? what happened to their supposed re-commitment to GA? One has to question the executive decision to roll this thing out way before it was ready to go...

 

 

Rustler Rising Star

Rustler

Posted
Posted

Apparently there's a problem with the spec'd backup battery not providing the time required to make the KI300 a certified backup instrument. Not absolutely sure, but that's what my avionics guy tells me.

Guest Mike261

Guest Mike261

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, Rustler said:

Apparently there's a problem with the spec'd backup battery not providing the time required to make the KI300 a certified backup instrument. Not absolutely sure, but that's what my avionics guy tells me.

that does not inspire confidence.

 

carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

Posted
Posted

So many partners...

Not enough BK.

Peter Aspen, not Peter Garmin, gave a good discussion on requirements for a qualified electronic back-up device.

Best regard,

-a-

mike_elliott Grand Master

mike_elliott

Posted
Posted
14 hours ago, carusoam said:

So many partners...

Not enough BK.

Peter Aspen, not Peter Garmin, gave a good discussion on requirements for a qualified electronic back-up device.

Best regard,

-a-

speaking of that, I have an Aspen shirt for our beloved KI300 evangelist.

  • Like 1
Godfather Proficient

Godfather

Posted
  • Author
Posted
On April 10, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Rustler said:

Apparently there's a problem with the spec'd backup battery not providing the time required to make the KI300 a certified backup instrument. Not absolutely sure, but that's what my avionics guy tells me.

I'm really not that worried about a few more months but will be a little unhappy if the delay is them designing a specialized battery that is a chipped unit non rebuildable design just so they can hose us on a $600 battery...

carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

Posted
Posted

Have no fear, BK is not designing anything... They are outsourcing.

How long did it take for the Ksn770 to come out?

A few years past the original expected publicly known date, plus a year.  When it arrived, the software wasn't ready...

you just can't put a date on it that can be trusted for use.

We have a guy from Avidyne.

We have a guy from Big G.

We have a guy from PS Audio.

Our guy from Aspen is still here, even though he is not with Aspen any longer.

Who is our BK guy?

My allegiance to BK is fading as quickly as my IP is aging...

Best regards,

-a-

Marauder Grand Master

Marauder

Posted
Posted
Have no fear, BK is not designing anything... They are outsourcing.

How long did it take for the Ksn770 to come out?

A few years past the original expected publicly known date, plus a year.  When it arrived, the software wasn't ready...

you just can't put a date on it that can be trusted for use.

We have a guy from Avidyne.

We have a guy from Big G.

We have a guy from PS Audio.

Our guy from Aspen is still here, even though he is not with Aspen any longer.

Who is our BK guy?

My allegiance to BK is fading as quickly as my IP is aging...

Best regards,

-a-

Want to add another one to your list of BK datapoints? Remember the BK demo we had done at Agape? The BK rep flew in to demonstrate the 770 to us?

I found him at the BK booth. I didn't expect him to remember me personally but he didn't remember doing the demo. He points to another rep in the booth and said he was probably the one. I then reminded him he flew in on a twin Cessna and then he made the connection.

When I managed a sales region that was rule #1, "know your potential customers".

  • Like 1
Mark89114 Experienced

Mark89114

Posted
Posted

That is unfortunate that it is taking BK this long.  I am wondering how much longer my KI256 will last.  I am a simple person and quite comfortable with flying without all of the glass wizardry.  It can be done, plus I have Ipad and Garmin 430 to watch on.  Also being a cheap bastard I have an issue paying approximately 20K installed for an Aspen, not that it is a bad unit, just that I am a cheap bastard and never getting a return on the money.  Yes I know I will never get a return on my capital investment in airplane purchase but I try to minimize my losses.  What is that statement never buy an A-model of anything, hopefully their won't be any production/learning curve issues but with the extra time it should be perfect.  I have googled this question before and the B-talk seems to have a lot of discussion, but I haven't had the courage to sign up.  Brand loyalty and all.

carqwik Experienced

carqwik

Posted
Posted

Well let's look on the bright side...if it is just a "battery" problem, then hopefully they can find one that works and now it's just the case of validating it.  And when it does come out, it's probably the best deal around for KI-256 owners like me...no worries about overhauls of the -256, gets rid of the vacuum system entirely and associated costs of pump replacements, filters, etc., and it is plug'n'play with my King A/P.  All for maybe $6k...

Are used vacuum pumps worth anything?  And what's a used -256 worth? 

 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.