Flaps on take-off?

[Dave Marten]

outta this one.

[201er]

Even when I take off from a 10,000 foot runway, I take off with flaps, get it off the ground! Then I push the nose back down and accelerate in ground effect (hey why not take that free drag reduction for a bit). And if there's no obstacles/factors and speed is good, I retract gear than flaps as I begin to climb. I get the best of both worlds then. I get off the ground ASAP, less wear on the tires and better visibility initially, but then I'm not losing much on drag because I get the flaps up soon. But best of all I have a good SOP that I can apply from the longest to the shortest field every time without thinking about it! Of course on a short field I delay retracting those things till past obstacles.

[N201MKTurbo]

The tail on my Mooney is painted red. It is the only proper color for a Mooney tail. Anybody who is flying with a tail that isn't red isn't doing it right and is putting themselves in danger......

[Hank]

I hope the several reddish colors on my tail are acceptable. The elevators and horizontal stabilizer, though, are white. Am I gonna crash?

[kmyfm20s]

I occasionally use full throttle on take off but only when I want to get off the ground a little quicker!

[Dave Marten]

The tail on my Mooney is painted red. It is the only proper color for a Mooney tail. Anybody who is flying with a tail that isn't red isn't doing it right and is putting themselves in danger......

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What a clown show. 

[BigTex]

Welcome to page 13.... 

[scottfromiowa]

Clowns are funny...but some also find them scary. Like taking off sans flaps.

[SkyPilot]

I occasionally use full throttle on take off but only when I want to get off the ground a little quicker!

Full throttle is good. Also some flap and a decent amount of air in the tires. And get on a treadmill

Merry Christmas all. I'll check this thread New Year's Eve...

[DAVIDWH]

According to the POH, no flap take offs on the long bodies increase the propensity to drag the tail and are not recommended.

 

Case in point, my Ovation had a no flap take-off tail drag the first year in service.

 

Sometimes you just got to listen to those test pilots.

[BigTex]

According to the POH, no flap take offs on the long bodies increase the propensity to drag the tail and are not recommended.

Case in point, my Ovation had a no flap take-off tail drag the first year in service.

Sometimes you just got to listen to those test pilots.

Seeing how low in the tail the Ovation and especially the Acclaim set I'm surprised that this isn't a concern regardless of Flap settings. These planes are damn near taildraggers (sounds like in some cases they are)!

[Htwjr]

I always use take off flaps on my C.  So far it has never failed to take off.  In fact, I would say it has taken off almost as good as this thread.

[DS1980]

I would like to congratulate everyone so far. This has been a good year for this thread. Lets look forward to a strong 2014!

[Hank]

I always use take off flaps on my C.  So far it has never failed to take off.  In fact, I would say it has taken off almost as good as this thread.

My C takes off the same way with flaps up; I only use them on short fields (like 2000' grass) and when loaded near gross.

Here's hoping for productive discussions in 2014!

[pinerunner]

I think there's a bet on how many pages before the new year!

[DS1980]

Stay flaps down my friends.

[fantom]

You humans haven't learned a thing from birds....

 

All their take-offs and landings use flaps

[N33GG]

Fantom speaks truth.

Merry Christmas everybody!

[Bob_Belville]

13 is unlucky

[DS1980]

So is taking off without flaps.

I mean seriously, why? Why am I still here? What is the meaning of this thread? Or life? What is existence? Where's my sandwich?

[BigTex]

Sounds like a few of us might be hitting the eggnog pretty hard!  Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

 

Maybe the OP for this thread could just put up a poll on the subject (assuming their still around) so we call weigh in on this subject and then call it a day.

[DS1980]

Looks like we messed with TX.

[bonal]

And on the seventh day god said "let there be flaps" and he saw that the flaps were good!

[AmigOne]

If we can agree that the t/o roll will be longer without flaps then why have those fragile wet tanks get beaten up unnecessarily over the runway. With 2K of flight in 3 different Mooneys I do use flaps on t/o. I want to be off the runway and climbing asap.

[flyboy]

Santa Claus uses partial flaps for take off.

 

Merry Christmas everyone