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Student pilot and Mooney Bravo

bnicolette

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bnicolette Veteran

bnicolette

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So.  A friend of mine just sold his Bravo to another local guy.  This guy has just under a hundred hours in an airplane and has never solo'd.  BUT, nonetheless, he bought the Bravo and is going to start his flight training this weekend.

 

Yikes.  

 

Hopefully nothing more than a prop strike in his future???

Mooneymite Grand Master

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Gutsy move.

 

Keep us posted!

 

I have a doctor friend who bought a brand new, from the factory A-36 to train in.  He never soloed, but he really looked good in his sunglasses and new airplane and that's what's important!   ;)

Skywarrior Proficient

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Of all the things 'wrong' in this story, how about: "...just under a hundred hours in an airplane and has never soloed."

 

That tells me that the new owner is not meant to be flying airplanes. Period.

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carusoam Grand Master

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Sometimes you own the airplane that you want, and then finish training in a C172...

Just a little more expensive this way...

Best regards,

-a-

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bnicolette Veteran

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I just think it's a little backwards.  We have little in the way of instructors around here to begin with.  I would have my reservations working with him in a "training airplane" knowing he went through 4 instructors and had that much time with no solo.  Throw into that mix a high performance airplane.  Nope............definitely don't want my name in that logbook.  

 

He was either lacking proper counsel or he totally ignored it.

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Cruiser Grand Master

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well if he is "going to start his flight training" he must have an instructor lined up and hopefully he talked with this instructor who is OK with training in the Bravo. (I wonder what the insurance costs?)

WardHolbrook Experienced

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All it would take is an understanding insurance broker and the $$$ to cover said insurance premium. (And that's only if you want the process to be cover by insurance, some folks don't worry too much about stuff like that.) Even light twins have been used as primary trainers. A friend of mine has a couple of primary students learning to fly in a DA42 Twinstar. I've never had a primary student in a retract, but I've trained some in a Cessna 182. It only takes a little additional time to get them up to speed with a C/S prop. Adding retractable gear to the mix wouldn't take much more effort. Besides, most military pilots are starting out in turboprop singles. Bottom line is all it really takes is $$$. 

bnicolette Veteran

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Very true Ward.  I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable. 

 

Most military folks learning to fly aren't in their 50's and I imagine they're very disciplined in a very structured environment flying/training daily.

 

I hope it all works out for him it's just unorthodox "in my mind".

Mooneymite Grand Master

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.... Besides, most military pilots are starting out in turboprop singles. Bottom line is all it really takes is $$$. 

 

Our military aviators may start out in turboprops, or (in years past) the T-37, but they don't have to find insurance.  That's taken care of by their rich uncle.   :P

 

Were I an underwriter, I would definitely take an interest in the details of the deal.

chrisk Veteran

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Of all the things 'wrong' in this story, how about: "...just under a hundred hours in an airplane and has never soloed."

 

That tells me that the new owner is not meant to be flying airplanes. Period.

There is a guy at the airport where I am based.  His dad owns an oil service company and bought his son an plane (cessna 182), with the conditions that the son can't fly it until he gets his instrument rating.   He has well over 100 hours and a very happy flight instructor, who rides with him on all his business trips.   He has yet to solo.  And the last I heard, he couldn't solo yet because he didn't have proper stall training.  Apparently he has no issues landing, taking off, or navigating.

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So. A friend of mine just sold his Bravo to another local guy. This guy has just under a hundred hours in an airplane and has never solo'd. BUT, nonetheless, he bought the Bravo and is going to start his flight training this weekend. Yikes. Hopefully nothing more than a prop strike in his future???
Try to find out when he starts... I want to watch...
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manu damaschin Enthusiast

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It is nothing imposible...depends how serios the guy is. Does he has kids, running a business...? I mean did he exercise his responsability in a way or another?

 

I had about 60 hours TT when I bought my 231 (with my own money). I bought it at the time because it was a very good deal not because I was prepared...and now I am flying IR with it. It was more difficult than building up hours with a Cessna indeed...BUT IT CAN BE DONE :)

 

 

manu

PTK Grand Master

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Try to find out when he starts... I want to watch...

Let me guess Chris...you want to stand by the runway with your video camera, right?

fantom Grand Master

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Let me guess Chris...you want to stand by the runway with your video camera, right?

 

Don't stand too close, Chris ;)

 

When I picked up my Mooney at the factory, there was a guy flying off to Wyoming in his brand new Bravo, his just printed PP ticket, and yes his CFI. I was told he did well during indoctrination training.

PTK Grand Master

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... Unfortunately, this has the markings of a tragedy in the making. Hope not, but I have a couple less friends who I wish I had said something to them about the way they treated flying .

Certainly hope you are wrong Chris, most certainly hope you're very wrong.

I had a friend too who was flying a V tail. He wanted to get his instrument rating and had asked me for some advice and prep materials. Well, I never got a chance to give him any of that because he was too busy shopping for airplanes! Suddenly I see his Baron in the hangar where the V used to be! He traded his V for a Baron.

In retrospect he was the kind of person who would do things on impulse. We all know people like that. One day while still flying the V he took off with a healthy tailwind. When asked him about it his answer was "...no big deal wind was light."

He was dead 10 months after he got the Baron. (The one that that crashed at MIV a couple summers ago.)

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