Need help

[Stnelson903]

My M20k 231 is at annual. I broke my elbow while it is there.

Can anyone tell me how much weight is need to push and pull the controls while the airplane is sitting still? A luggage scale may work for that..

 

 

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[carusoam]

Several pounds of force...

Depending on the weight of the elevator...

Where the trim is set...

and how well the springs are working...

Good luck with the healing process...

How is knowing the force on the yoke going to assist you?

Are you currently stuck in the plane, and need to get out?

Best regards,

-a-

[mike_elliott]

Where is the shop the plane is at and where are you needing to fly it back to? Perhaps someone with K time here would be a typical good guy Mooney pilot and fetch it for you.

 

[Stnelson903]

I was wanting to know the weight so my doc and therapist can get me to that amount.
The heaviest I’ve felt it was when then aircraft is sitting still, trim doesn’t help that.


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[N201MKTurbo]

Fly with your other arm...

Which one did you break?

[Stnelson903]

Left


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[Yetti]

Trimmed out I fly with a thumb and forefinger.   No A/P   When you really need it is bad trim full power take off.   I would say 5-10lbs fore and aft.   Do you have a wing leveler?  That changes things left and right.

[EricJ]

4 hours ago, Stnelson903 said:

Left

My left shoulder failed a couple of weeks ago due to a degenerative condition resulting from a back injury about ten years ago.   One of the early indicators that I was having a problem was that I couldn't maintain pressure on the yoke for very long, which is a problem because my autopilot no workie.

I've stopped flying while I'm in physical therapy to fix the shoulder.   I didn't want to take a chance on it not working at the wrong moment.

[PT20J]

9 hours ago, Stnelson903 said:

I was wanting to know the weight so my doc and therapist can get me to that amount.
The heaviest I’ve felt it was when then aircraft is sitting still, trim doesn’t help that.


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Bobweight. You should never have that much force in flight. 

[carusoam]

Gents...

Two situations come to mind...

1) Maximum pushing force....

Consider the forces required for full flaps go-arounds...

If not executed with aplomb... adding power with this configuration requires a healthy push on the yoke to keep the nose from pointing skywards...

 

2) Maximum pulling force...

Electric trim failure procedures should be considered as well...  be ready to shut that thing off...  if for some reason the trim decides to dive...  the force of pulling on the yoke is pretty much defined by the FAA somewhere... 35Lbs? 
 

or flaps have gone full down, prior to getting any trim spun in...

Some healthy individuals would be unable to handle this for very long...

manual gear or electric?

Flaps switch or pumps?

So... if your parts aren’t working... consider bringing a CFI or Mooney friend along to review what works and what doesn’t...

Good luck with the recovery... physical therapy can be fun when things get better every day... 

PP thoughts only, not a physical therapist... or CFI...

Best regards,

-a-

[N201MKTurbo]

14 hours ago, Stnelson903 said:

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Bummer.

Gotta keep switching your hand from the throttle to the yoke. 
 

If it was the right, you would only need enough strength to work the throttle.

Get your flying friends to go with you just in case.

[N201MKTurbo]

BTW,

Heal fast!

[N201MKTurbo]

Have you tried flying from the right seat?

[Stnelson903]

Good thought but no brakes on right side


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[carusoam]

Adding brakes is always a possibility if this idea helps get you flying...

-a-