M20E Avionics Upgrade Project

[spleecho]

Morning guys. We just started an upgrade of my right side panel, ripping out all the analog gauges and installing an MVP-5OP. Is it something you wanna see and hear about with pictures as the project goes on or you’ve seen it all before...?

 

 

 

[sdflysurf]

I for one will be following - I am doing something similar.  At least you have a Garmin 430 (which is part of our upgrade)

I will be making a new panel as soon as I find how to do the pilot side with the bend around the right edge (which is how yours is too).

Also - looks like you have some old Transponder - what are you doing for ADS-B?

[cctsurf]

Very interested to see.  I'm moving in this direction as well.  Curious why you left all of the intrusions into the panel area.  I know you are perhaps only using those places now, but it leaves weight and I doubt provides any extra support...

I'd love to see the install of the different sensors on the MVP gauge as well...  I have an EDM that needs installing.

[spleecho]

Well alright alright don’t twist my arm I’ll share:)

so we are ripping out the entire right side of the panel, the old stuff you’re seeing is the old very flimsy panel, it’s unbelievably thin, it seems previous guy needed something quick and just made what you see, the old cutouts you’re seeing on the plane is original, it will be trimmed. Friend is CAD guy and will draw up a new one, saw bunch of people needing the CAD file so I’ll be sharing my blank. Contacted couple companies for quotes on just tracing/cnc-ing new one and us finishing, steep pricing so far for something so basic, basically two lines cut. 
I have SkyBeacon for ADS-B but will be removing in favor for Garmin GTX 345 GPS which answers the old coffee grinder transponder question. For the altitude encoder I chose Garmin’s for the sake of simplicity, 3 wires and static. I know it’s proprietary to the 345 but I plan on keeping it. Read few posts here about shock mounts for panels, I’ve elected to replace the left completely destroyed ones and mount new ones with shock mounts. Super rough draft of new panel, friend working on CAD as we speak. 
Found out on here I have resistive fuel probes, E.I. takes capacitive readings but after calling them they confirm they can sell me their $100 RFLM module which solves fuel reading issue. 
Guy doing the wiring on MVP-50P has done them before and he does a very nice and clean layout I have confidence in him. While the plane is ripped apart we are also doing my annual too, couple months early but might as well get it all done. 
So far new fuel pump, some hoses, few gaskets (2 of them base seals :/)

[67 m20F chump]

I moved my circuit breakers to the space beside where your putting your engine monitor.  I went with the 30p+c.

[cctsurf]

I'd love a copy of the cad file, that would make a great help for my project.

[carusoam]

Imagine sitting on the roof.... looking down the windshield...

This is one odd point of view challenge... 

-a-

[spleecho]

Measurements he needed for CAD. Didn’t know how to measure the curve but he has the old one so he can measure 

[Keith20EH]

Yes, I will be following and doing something very similar to my E. Thanks 

[spleecho]

New panel shape of panel in red. 

[spleecho]

preliminary CAD

[spleecho]

took most of the day. 

[redcatcher27]

Panel Porn is always nice!

[Nukemzzz]

Watching eagerly as I’ll be doing the same to M20e at some point. Wrapping up EDM 730 install now. Posting some pics of it soon in case it hopes other with wire routing. 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Nukemzzz

[spleecho]

Here is the final. Posting Layered Illustrator files for you guys to use too.

2/9/20 Edit - final corrected dimensions updated. 

smaller 7mb file is plain PDF, large 84mb file is layered so you can turn on/off what you seeing or import and edit.

 

 

 

Instrument_Panel_dimensions_illustrator_rev2.pdf Instrument Panel_dimensions_rev3.pdf

[spleecho]

Layered illustrator so you can remove and adjust whatever you want. 

Instrument_Panel_dimensions_illustrator.pdf

Instrument_Panel_dimensions_illustrator_rev2.pdf

Edited February 10, 2020 by spleecho
New file

[spleecho]

Before anything else, Illustrator file requires revision! Some dimensions incorrect, will advise when corrected.

so jugs are off, they are doing the base seals tonight. I am having no luck finding fuel sender probe gaskets for both sides. Blue around them so we want to replace if you guys can help with part numbers. I have the parts catalog but found no reference to gaskets. 
first MVP-50P harness started going in last night. 

[carusoam]

I hope somebody is going to put all that back when they are done...

-a-

 

[spleecho]

11 hours ago, carusoam said:

I hope somebody is going to put all that back when they are done...

-a-

 

Nothing some duct tape can't fix! Still seeing if anybody has a clue about the part number on the fuel sender probe gaskets.

[spleecho]

Test fit tonight 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, spleecho said:

Nothing some duct tape can't fix! Still seeing if anybody has a clue about the part number on the fuel sender probe gaskets.

I can’t find the part number in the E model IPC, but from the J model it should be the same gasket.  Search “fuel transmitter gasket” at Spruce, they’re all the same.

Clarence

[RLCarter]

49 minutes ago, M20Doc said:

I can’t find the part number in the E model IPC, but from the J model it should be the same gasket.  Search “fuel transmitter gasket” at Spruce, they’re all the same.

Clarence

Had one leaking when I first got my E, A&P pulled one from his stock, it was for a Cessna if memory serves

[spleecho]

15 hours ago, M20Doc said:

I can’t find the part number in the E model IPC, but from the J model it should be the same gasket.  Search “fuel transmitter gasket” at Spruce, they’re all the same.

Clarence

Yes that was it! Thanks Clarence

 

[spleecho]

Test panel went in like a glove it was a perfect match. Still going to do Lexan one just to be 100% sure then 090 aluminum. Guys did the wiring loom last night they should start installs today and getting jugs back on. While we at it we decided to do my audio panel too, installing Garmin GMA 340. This isn’t neck deep, this is Mariana Trench deep now. 

[Oldguy]

You're never done until you run out of checks and the credit card has melted!