AVGAS price today

[Jim Peace]

Paid 3.23 a gallon today at Cable airport just northwest of Ontario California.  I wish I was empty..could only take 12 gallons.

Has anyone seen it cheaper this week? where?

[tony]

That is cheap, My home airport is at 3.45 and its the cheapest around here.  

[Jeff_S]

I forgot to post this last week after my Thanksgiving trip, but if you're near the "boot heel" of Missouri, stop in Kennet (KTKX) and fill 'er up.  $2.97/gallon! I've been flying for about 10 years, and I think that's the lowest I've ever seen.

Here's proof:

 

[M20F]

$3.13 at 54J last week but it they raised it when they filled the tank

[The-sky-captain]

I was in OKC a couple weeks ago and paid $3.05 at Sundance (KHSD). That's the cheapest I've seen since 2008.

[Shadrach]

Still $5.05 at HGR in the People's Republic of Maryland.

[TWinter]

1 hour ago, Jeff_S said:

I forgot to post this last week after my Thanksgiving trip, but if you're near the "boot heel" of Missouri, stop in Kennet (KTKX) and fill 'er up.  $2.97/gallon! I've been flying for about 10 years, and I think that's the lowest I've ever seen.

Here's proof:

 

This is just across the river from me. Maybe 15 minute flight. We've been urging our FBO to get competitive with these prices. Kennett has a great philosophy/strategy about their pricing. They said the city prices just a few cents above cost to try attract people to come and stop by Kennett. To shop, go to restaurants, see what Kennett has to offer. They look at the airport as a "Gateway"- (their term). I would say they have a smart city government..It seems to be working. Too bad other FBOs don't look at the glass as half full.

[Seth]

1 hour ago, Shadrach said:

Still $5.05 at HGR in the People's Republic of Maryland.

Yeah, the only time I see significant sub $5 gas is when not in the mid Atlantic.

 

-Seth

[Shadrach]

2 minutes ago, Seth said:

Yeah, the only time I see significant sub $5 gas is when not in the mid Atlantic.

-Seth

$4.59 at 2W2! If I pulled back to 20" LOP, I could almost make that 36NM trip a wash..almost.

[M20F]

26 minutes ago, Shadrach said:

$4.59 at 2W2! If I pulled back to 20" LOP, I could almost make that 36NM trip a wash..almost.

KDMW is $4.09 and it's only 34NM. 

[Shadrach]

11 minutes ago, M20F said:

KDMW is $4.09 and it's only 34NM. 

Arnav says $4.06! I wonder why it's not in their "great deals" report!

[M20F]

39 minutes ago, Shadrach said:

Arnav says $4.06! I wonder why it's not in their "great deals" report!

I find that report to be very flawed as I think it is compiled based on FBO's who pay to be on it (think, don't know).  I find Foreflights overlay of fuel prices to be pretty spot on which is usually what I use to find enroute spots.  

[flyboy0681]

$3.25 around here. Given that prices were over $6.00 a few short years ago, I never thought I would live to see the day again.

Of course Landmark and the other big FBO's are still charging north of $6.50. 

[carusoam]

$4.20 for the fly-in in NJ...

Auto gas is $1.80.  OPEC has announced their continued loss of control over pricing this week.  Enjoy the low prices while they last.

it will still be a while before people start buying twins.

Best regards,

-a-

[flyboy0681]

38 minutes ago, carusoam said:

 

Auto gas is $1.80. 

 

Amazing how auto-gas can be $1.80 with full service. Imagine what prices could be if everyone pumped their own, but I guess the fire hazard would be too much.

[1964-M20E]

Just stay away from Signature, Landmark and those types.    A quick scan of the highest prices and they are generally the ones in the $5.75 or higher group.

I'm not sure of the current wholesale price but I'm think it is somewhere around $3.50 for 4,000 gallons.

Anyone charging over $5.60 is just taking advantage of customers who are somewhat trapped IMHO.

[bonal]

Nut tree still the lowest in NorCal at 3.87 most are still around mid 4 dollar with plenty over 5 and even some above 6 per gallon. It's great that prices have been staying down but since I fly a 20C fuel prices have never been an issue last trip to STS I had them top it off and they could only squeeze 11 gallons in.

[DXB]

1 hour ago, 1964-M20E said:

Just stay away from Signature, Landmark and those types.    A quick scan of the highest prices and they are generally the ones in the $5.75 or higher group.

I'm not sure of the current wholesale price but I'm think it is somewhere around $3.50 for 4,000 gallons.

Anyone charging over $5.60 is just taking advantage of customers who are somewhat trapped IMHO.

Don't forget Atlantic - they generously just dropped prices on my field to below $7.00 for first time I've seen - to $6.99. Thanks guys!   They actually charge slightly less at the other little field in town - Philly International.  

[Seth]

11 hours ago, M20F said:

KDMW is $4.09 and it's only 34NM. 

I stand corrected. I frequent DMW often and will fill even the extended tanks there for a 98 gallon fuel load at a full $1 less per gallon then my home drone.  

Its even a better deal than KGED right now which not only gives the discount if you eat there, but then with a small form, Delaware gives the tax back to out of state pilots.

-Seth

 

 

[Parker_Woodruff]

23 hours ago, TWinter said:

This is just across the river from me. Maybe 15 minute flight. We've been urging our FBO to get competitive with these prices. Kennett has a great philosophy/strategy about their pricing. They said the city prices just a few cents above cost to try attract people to come and stop by Kennett. To shop, go to restaurants, see what Kennett has to offer. They look at the airport as a "Gateway"- (their term). I would say they have a smart city government..It seems to be working. Too bad other FBOs don't look at the glass as half full.

With the margins that FBOs make, I actually think it's unfortunate that municipal-run FBOs take a lot of business from for-profit FBOs because of their unrealistically low prices.  The thousands of gallons that many municipal FBOs take due to their losses being subsidized by the public takes away from the economies of scale that would allow a for-profit, private business from reducing their per gallon price in the first place.

Land leases, fuel tank maintenance, credit card processing fees, employees, workers' compensation insurance, liability insurance, employment taxes, equipment.  They can't make that back at a low traffic rural airport selling gas for $0.25/gal over cost.

The losses get paid for...by every taxpayer.

 

The worst offenders seem to be the municipalities subsidizing airlines to the tune of millions of dollars.  The big cities do it to and shove property tax burdens to small businesses (that said, if you ask me, neither small business nor large business should have to pay BPP tax).  Rural populations would otherwise be buying airplanes to fly themselves.  General Aviation suffers as a result.  But we somehow have generated an idea that Americans have a constitutional right to cheap airfare.  Don't even get me started on EAS.

[bonal]

At home we have a local vendor that operates the self serve they usually run in the mid to high 4 dollar range I don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience and it supports a local business. when we visit STS our most frequent stop I always go to Sonoma Jet Center and I pay the extra dollar per gallon for the line guy which I don't mind supporting since they give us EXCELLENT customer service and since I fly a C it's never that much fuel anyway . If I owned a Bonanza I might look at it differently.

[Mooneymite]

Avgas SW of ATL is going for about $3.20/gallon.

Unfortunately, I filled my home tank with $4.80 avgas thinking I was getting a deal 5 months ago.

As a fuel speculator, I would loose my shirt.

[ArtVandelay]

Avgas SW of ATL is going for about $3.20/gallon.

Unfortunately, I filled my home tank with $4.80 avgas thinking I was getting a deal 5 months ago.

As a fuel speculator, I would loose my shirt.

If I didn't fly for 5 months or more, I would not be worried about price of fuel.

[TWinter]

6 hours ago, Parker_Woodruff said:

With the margins that FBOs make, I actually think it's unfortunate that municipal-run FBOs take a lot of business from for-profit FBOs because of their unrealistically low prices.  The thousands of gallons that many municipal FBOs take due to their losses being subsidized by the public takes away from the economies of scale that would allow a for-profit, private business from reducing their per gallon price in the first place.

Land leases, fuel tank maintenance, credit card processing fees, employees, workers' compensation insurance, liability insurance, employment taxes, equipment.  They can't make that back at a low traffic rural airport selling gas for $0.25/gal over cost.

The losses get paid for...by every taxpayer.

 

The worst offenders seem to be the municipalities subsidizing airlines to the tune of millions of dollars.  The big cities do it to and shove property tax burdens to small businesses (that said, if you ask me, neither small business nor large business should have to pay BPP tax).  Rural populations would otherwise be buying airplanes to fly themselves.  General Aviation suffers as a result.  But we somehow have generated an idea that Americans have a constitutional right to cheap airfare.  Don't even get me started on EAS.

I know all to well about taxes and small business..been running a small business for 20 yrs. As a private health club owner we battle daily with tax exempt YMCAs and other non-profit related businesses that get subsidized funding while trying to compete with the private sector such as myself (like you said, don't get me going on that topic). I guess my reference was municipal to municipal.. Apples to apples. I do understand your point though.

 

 

-Tom

[DonMuncy]

I'm torn on the issue. I sure don't want anyone running FBO's out of business. They need all the help they can get. But I don't like the idea of someone buying fuel at $3.00 and selling it to me at $6.00+. I try to support the folks who provide services as I fly, but I admit I try to buy avgas as cheap as I can.