thomas1142 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Ok, I have decided that I want to buy an airplane, a Mooney 201J. Don't want to discuss the pros cons or mission requirements. What I need is some advice from all you folks with experience, how do I handle been out of the country four to five months a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Find a trusted pilot to fly it for you while you're gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman1200 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hi. I am TrustedPilot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 5TJ Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Look for a good partner to share ownership with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpilot Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 When you leave the country, take the J with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I agree with the others. Try to find someone to fly it. If you truly won't be able to operate it, I would have it pickled. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I agree with the others. Try to find someone to fly it. If you truly won't be able to operate it, I would have it pickled. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pickling preserves the engine, might consider wing jacks to save tires and shock donuts. Buy a good battery charger. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryoder Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Drop it off at KZPH and I'll fly her for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clh Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 my situation was the same as yours. i got a partner and it worked out very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Schedule the annual and any other maintenance while you are gone so it is not down while you are there. Schedule so it gets done just before you get back so it is guaranteed to gave a fresh battery and oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBill Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Where you located Thomas ? Eman and I fly together often in mine.. I can vouch for him if he is near you. I agree with the others.. It should be flown not just run up. I have been down with various health issues since 10/13 but I keep flying at least once a month if possible with another pilot. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 4 months is a little long for an engine not to run. I think the best options have been mentioned. Depends on whether or not you want a partner. If not, having someone you trust and who is covered by insurance to fly the plane every few weeks would be a way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Where you located Thomas ? Eman and I fly together often in mine.. I can vouch for him if he is near you. I agree with the others.. It should be flown not just run up. I have been down with various health issues since 10/13 but I keep flying at least once a month if possible with another pilot. Bill I didn't realize that, Bill. Hope you get better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas1142 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Located in NW Florida. Really don't want a partner, selfish with my toys :-), and I'm always going to be worried of who is flying it. What is involved in pickling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 http://www.ramaircraft.com/Maintenance-Tips/Engine%20Corrosion%2002-15.pdf Not mooney specific, but good write-up on engine use from people that know engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiplane Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 The worst partner will still be better for the plane than the best preservation. Planes are made to fly. They're also like women... if you don't give them enough attention, they will give you trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 It's heresy here but I wonder how many thousands of planes sit unflown for several months, though long winter for example, without disastrous results? I'm not talking "best practices" just reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 The worst partner will still be better for the plane than the best preservation. They're also like women... if you don't give them enough attention, they will give you trouble. Two points, 1. I imagine there is some pretty bad horror stories 2. So if planes are like women, when you are away, do you ask another guy to take out your wife, girlfriend?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piloto Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 If the plane is sitting inside a closed hangar there is no more deterioration than flying it. After all the Spirit of St. Louis has been at the Smithsonian for 88 years and looks great. If you have an AGM battery it will not be affected significantly but you may need to recharge the battery before first flight. Plug the exhaust with a rag and other openings to keep moisture and bugs from entering the plane. Lubricate with WD-40 all visible rod ends before hibernation to avoid a sticky one. Change the oil at every annual even if it has not flown 50 hours. Make sure there is no electrical appliances left on in the hangar that could cause a fire. José Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N601RX Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I have a friend who works in Afganistan for 6-9 months at a time. He added me to the insurance and asked me to fly it for an hr or so every 3 weeks. I would email him each time I flew it and let him know everything was ok. We did this for about 2 years and it seem to work out well. If there is someone you trust at you airport see if ou can work out a similiar deal with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve65E-NC Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I think it is worth the extra money to run Exxon Elite oil for this profile. Also, do all you can to control humidity. A dry hanger is better than one with a wet floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 It's heresy here but I wonder how many thousands of planes sit unflown for several months, though long winter for example, without disastrous results? I'm not talking "best practices" just reality. It isn't so much just the engine as it is all the moving parts. All those greased items from the prop to the gear don't get any activity. I worry less about corrosion in the engine then I do everything else when it doesn't fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 ok , i will take the other view , i leave the county for you and you fly my plane too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm sure you can find an experienced Mooney pilot willing to help, that's what I'd do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 It isn't so much just the engine as it is all the moving parts. All those greased items from the prop to the gear don't get any activity. I worry less about corrosion in the engine then I do everything else when it doesn't fly. I remain skeptical. I'm thinking properly "Tri-Lubed" Heim bearings will do just fine sitting in hanger. The Teflon + lubricant is designed to protect the moving parts between 100 hour/annual inspections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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