Need help on updating my KLN94B database card

[flyingvee201]

So, we have the KLN94b in our plane and need to update the datacard.

It was done by another partner, but he no longer has is old PC to do it.

Im using a Dell laptop with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and using the USB port. I have the right Immagemate card reader as well.

For some reason, the Honeywell gpsloader cant seem to see the datacard.

It does take a good 20 minutes before Windows see the E: drive and shows the imagemate Sandisk drive but thats as far as I get. I've even rebooted with the cardreader plugged into the USB port, but No Joy!

Even tried letting it sit for an hour....still nothing!

 

I have a call out to Honeywell (Wingman Services) today, but I figured I'd ask the group here.

 

Thanks

Vic

[carusoam]

KLN90B has a similar challenge...only older...

unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you.

I have the wires and plugs and a PC that is a decade old, still no joy.

with the 90B, the memory 'card' is in the back of the GPS box. pull the box, replace the data device. reinstall GPS...

A wifi device would be nice...

best regards,

-a-

[mooneyflyfast]

The Imagemate is not compatible with Win XP service pack 3 or anything newer. I ended up getting a serial/ USB converter and updating from laptop USB to my KLN 94 port. There is a paper on the Honeywell site that covers this.

[flyingvee201]

The Imagemate is not compatible with Win XP service pack 3 or anything newer. I ended up getting a serial/ USB converter and updating from laptop USB to my KLN 94 port. There is a paper on the Honeywell site that covers this.

 

Yeah, I think the easiest thing to do is get the converter cable. Is your laptop using Win 7?

[mooneyflyfast]

Also, not all serial/USB converters work. Bendix King recommends the Keyspan, which is what I have. I believe the cable itself is about $100 from BK.

[DrBill]

I had a  Beech with the 89B.  The card is not readable direct, it is not a standard interface. There should be a port on the panel for the serial data cable.  Bendix king gives you the software. I recently sold my cable.  It takes about 15 mins to upload the data in the plane with a laptop.. As mentioned above I got the KEYSPAN USB serial adapter as recommended by BK technical support.  Works great.  BK sells the data via subscription. When you download the update you need the hex serial number from the unit.

[carqwik]

It takes several tries of removing the card and reinstalling it into the Imagemate.  Sometimes it works the first time, sometimes it takes several tries.  I use Windows7 as well; no idea what number Service Pack is installed as I have the computer set for automatic updates.  Desktop computer too...not a laptop.

 

I still don't get why it takes 20 minutes for the software to recognize the Imagemate though.  Everything else is right away...

[Two Oh One]

The Imagemate is not compatible with Win XP service pack 3 or anything newer. I ended up getting a serial/ USB converter and updating from laptop USB to my KLN 94 port. There is a paper on the Honeywell site that covers this.

This was my KLN 94 / Imagemate experience. I had to ditch the Win7 machine and revert to the XP sp2 dinosaur..

[Nemesis]

I have a KLN 89B. My setup to update is...

One of the hard drives in my desktop still has WinXP SP3 on it.

I use the cables from Lonestar Aviation for their take-home system.

For a serial connection I use a Gigaware USB - Serial converter from Radio Shack.

 

The trick to the whole setup is to first get the OS to talk to the USB - Serial converter. Install, uninstall, re-install - until you can see a new serial port in Device Manager. If it does not show in Device Manager then the computer does not recognize your serial port. Once recognized by the computer, it is usually an easy matter to tell the uploader which serial port to use and then contact the GPS unit.

 

If you have one of those older card readers that fit that odd sized card, the trick is to use an OS old enough to both recognize the card reader and run the uploader software.

 

Dave

[flyingvee201]

Well, I got the card updated using the Sandisk image mate card reader.

I used my neighbor's XP desktop that his daughter had.

I tolerated her Justin Beiber screen saver but I got done. It was quick and painless.

The card reader pulled up in 30 seconds, downloaded the gps loader,then this cycle's database and BAM!  I was DONE!

 

I might have to buy that old PC from him or just go on eBay and find an old laptop with XP on it.

 

-Vic

 

[1964-M20E]

I have had issues as well.  Sometimes I can get it to update on my laptop running Win 7 and vista before.  I have an older computer running XP that works.  I will be glad to get rid of my KLN94 is it a great GPS does what it needs to do but the updates have been a bear.

[flyingvee201]

Yeah, I agree on the KLN94. Need to upgrade the GPS. We've been looking at a new 430w (still can be bought new w ith warranty) or even the newer touchscreen version.

I thikn we need to focus first on the paint, but my partners want the GPS first.

Paint chipping away and the red is very faded. Have corrosion around the inspecton panel screws and some on the wing tips.

I would love to get that all touched up at least.

I cant seem to find someone to do it around here though.

[carusoam]

Focus on the corrosion problem...

It can spread quickly.

Best regards,

-a-