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Sup y'all?  New here on m-space, bringing my total aviation forum membership up to 2  WOOHOO.  Some may recognize my username from that other forum I'm on.  Anyways, got my PPL 12/28/2013, currently fly Cherokees and an Archer,and pretty much have been dreaming of owning a mooney ever since.  Figured I'd finally join here to learn a little more from the pro's.  Gonna start poking around this site, seeing what's what and who's who and figured I'd just introduce myself.  OK, thanks!

 

 

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Welcome!

There's a lot of good stuff about Mooneys here you can call from the archives, but don't be shy about posing questions and posting your opinions...you'll fit right in.

Some excellent topics to start:

1. Should you use flaps for takeoff?

2. Should one use Camguard?

3. Should one fly lean-of-peak?

4. Are touch-and-goes prudent?

5. Overhaul, or reman.?

6. Which is better, manual, or electric gear?

7. Is it better to reseal tanks, or install bladders?

Any of these topics will quickly introduce you to everyone on Mooneyspace and you will see that various opinions are tolerated on these topics, no matter how mis-informed the participants may be. :-)

Did I say, "Welcome to Mooneyspace"?

:-)

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Welcome!

There's a lot of good stuff about Mooneys here you can call from the archives, but don't be shy about posing questions and posting your opinions...you'll fit right in.

Some excellent topics to start:

1. Should you use flaps for takeoff?

2. Should one use Camguard?

3. Should one fly lean-of-peak?

4. Are touch-and-goes prudent?

5. Overhaul, or reman.?

6. Which is better, manual, or electric gear?

7. Is it better to reseal tanks, or install bladders?

Any of these topics will quickly introduce you to everyone on Mooneyspace and you will see that various opinions are tolerated on these topics, no matter how mis-informed the participants may be. :-)

Did I say, "Welcome to Mooneyspace"?

:-)

You forgot to add Mooney's are better than brand, C, C, B, P, D and most others!

Clarence

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Sup y'all?  New here on m-space, bringing my total aviation forum membership up to 2  WOOHOO.  Some may recognize my username from that other forum I'm on.  Anyways, got my PPL 12/28/2013, currently fly Cherokees and an Archer,and pretty much have been dreaming of owning a mooney ever since.  Figured I'd finally join here to learn a little more from the pro's.  Gonna start poking around this site, seeing what's what and who's who and figured I'd just introduce myself.  OK, thanks!

Welcome! We accept refugees from Boards of all colors. As they say down here, where're you at?

Lots going on in the near future:

-Wings Over North Georgia, 18 October

-AOPA Flyin, Saint Simons Island, 8 November

-Mooneys in the Mountains, Morganton, NC, 15 November

Pop in, Cherokee and all. Hope to see you around!

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Welcome! We accept refugees from Boards of all colors. As they say down here, where're you at?

 

 

Thanks!  I live in Charlotte NC now, born and raised in Jersey.

 

Some of the flights I'd like to take are from CLT to Jersey, anywhere along the coast (Myrtle, HH, etc...), Atlanta and Florida to see my parents.  I don't see flying to FLA in a cherokee (or other 100ish kt plane), but a mooney would make this possible. An arrow might also, but def a mooney. 

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I'm in Mint Hill and could use a pilot w/medical for the Nov 15th trip to Morganton.  Let me know if you'd like to come with me. 

I'm based at Wilgrove (8a6).. just out Albemarle RD Before I485.

BILL

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I'm in Mint Hill and could use a pilot w/medical for the Nov 15th trip to Morganton.  Let me know if you'd like to come with me. 

I'm based at Wilgrove (8a6).. just out Albemarle RD Before I485.

BILL

 

I've met you several times DrBill........was hoping to go on some PnP flights with you, and I am also based out of Wilgrove.  I would like to talk to you about this trip....

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Your lucky, you found Mooney space before you started thinking about getting a Mooney, I got mine and then as we all do had questions about this or that would go on line and put in a question and the search would always take me to M space I thought why not come here first and search. I am very happy with my Mooney now but if I had known about this great resource before I bought it I most likely would have passed on it and kept looking with a much better idea of what to look for and more important what to look out for. It is a good thing when we hear of a new pilot and a sad thing when someone is hanging it up. Best of luck in all your flying indevors

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Welcome eman,

I must say as a recent first time owner, there are some immediate learning goals you should set before you are ready to purchase. You need the knowledge and it is here for the taking. You could reap bountifully from previous discussions on here. Information of ownership costs, like insurance, hanger and annuals; Information on common Mooney maintenance concerns, when you need qualified Mooney knowledgable mechanics, Airworthiness Directives and Service Bulletins, good techniques to find, inspect, value and purchase an aircraft, and learn good practices and techniques as a Mooney pilot from day one.

I did the earlier stages of study and purchase on my own and then afterward learned of this site from a co-worker, who is a member here and also owns a Mooney. He has a spectacular older Mooney with all that Aspen stuff and GPS stuff, state of the art engine monitor, new paint & interior and is pretty quiet about it all.

So, I joined here a few months after purchasing and have benefitted tremendously from knowledge of the members here. Luckily my research before arriving here was good enough to get me started with a solid plane at a fair price.

There's a wealth of information here that will make your journey to ownership a success!

Welcome aboard!

 yessir....I'm starting from square one.  admittedly I'm basing my desire for a mooney strictly on 1) it's badass looks and 2) it's well known speeds/efficiency, not necessarily in that order.  I mean, it's based on a few other things as well, such as the type of flying I'd mainly be doing.  I don't have a family to haul around so useful load isn't a top priority, don't need turbo, don't 'need' glass, don't 'need' RG but do want at least 130kt which the two typically seem to go hand in hand (not always, I know), don't 'need' high performance, don't want to burn 15+gal/hour, not looking to build a plane, not opposed to high wing at all, just have always flown low wing and like them, IFR...this is a tough one, I mean, why NOT have an IFR capable plane even though I have no short term plan to become IFR, but should that change, and it easily could, I would want it, initial cost is a big factor with mooneys, I feel I can find an arrow for less up front cost, and an arrow isn't out of the question......

 

yadda yadda blah blah, all the same stuff y'all already hear about over and over. 

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Welcome to MS. The most difficult challenge you'll have here is separating all the good opinions from the occasional off-the-wall ones.

A MAJOR Mooney event not mentioned is the Mooney Summit in Panama City Beach the end of this month. An airport full of Mooney's, a bunch of special people, and superb seminars. Plus it's free.

Learn a little more and that Arrow will be a distant memory :)

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Welcome!

1. A Mooney is an exceptional go-places airplane, capable and comfortable, and fun to fly. But you knew that, right?

2. You've found a fine source of expertise here.

3. An instrument rating is a huge safety measure, even if you are a mostly fair-weather flier. A fast, slick airplane (why, hello, Mooney,) can get you in over your head in a hurry. Unsought advice: Go ahead and start on the IR.

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I second everyone's hearty: Welcome!

 

And even stronger second the advice to get your IR. At 170-180 kts you quickly find yourself in different weather patterns than from where you took off. You are forced to become a better pilot, always a plus in a high performance aircraft.

 

A great way to do all this:

  • do your homework on which Mooney to buy while at the same time...
  • do your homework on the written test
  • pass the written and buy your Mooney
  • combine transition training and an accelerated IR course

You'll be amazed at the number of fun travel options that open up when you have both a Mooney and an IR :)

 

Fly safe

 

Robert

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Thanks!  I live in Charlotte NC now, born and raised in Jersey.

 

Some of the flights I'd like to take are from CLT to Jersey, anywhere along the coast (Myrtle, HH, etc...), Atlanta and Florida to see my parents.  I don't see flying to FLA in a cherokee (or other 100ish kt plane), but a mooney would make this possible. An arrow might also, but def a mooney. 

 

I live in Tampa Bay. Here are some reference figures for you. I rented a Cessna 172 to fly from Tampa Bay to Greenville, NC. The flight took me 6-7 hours each way because I had to stop for fuel and the total rental expense was around $1400. 

 

The 1967 Mooney will get me to NYC, with a fuel stop, for around $600-$700 round-trip, depending on fuel prices and winds. Tampa Bay to NC is under three hours to get to Asheville and around 3.5 to get to Raleigh. The Mooney carries six hours of fuel as well. I can recall four Piper crashes here in the area over the past two years. Two of them were definitely fuel exhaustion, one was likely fuel exhaustion and I don't know about the one that landed in Venice, FL on those people.

 

The common element with those Piper accidents is that you have four hours, or less, of fuel and to maintain reserves, you have to stop for fuel before you're really ready to get out of the plane; plus, because you're going a lot slower, you have fewer choices to stop and the temptation is there to push things. 

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I live in Tampa Bay. Here are some reference figures for you. I rented a Cessna 172 to fly from Tampa Bay to Greenville, NC. The flight took me 6-7 hours each way because I had to stop for fuel and the total rental expense was around $1400.

The 1967 Mooney will get me to NYC, with a fuel stop, for around $600-$700 round-trip, depending on fuel prices and winds. Tampa Bay to NC is under three hours to get to Asheville and around 3.5 to get to Raleigh. The Mooney carries six hours of fuel as well. I can recall four Piper crashes here in the area over the past two years. Two of them were definitely fuel exhaustion, one was likely fuel exhaustion and I don't know about the one that landed in Venice, FL on those people.

The common element with those Piper accidents is that you have four hours, or less, of fuel and to maintain reserves, you have to stop for fuel before you're really ready to get out of the plane; plus, because you're going a lot slower, you have fewer choices to stop and the temptation is there to push things.

Thanks for those real world #s, very helpful. As for accidents due to fuel exhaustion, I mean, if someone is not going to plan properly it prob doesn't matter what plane they're flying.

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I'll give you some additional real world numbers from the last weekend.  The wife and I flew from Austin to Albuquerque and back.  The flight West was into a stiff headwind.  We could have gone non-stop, but ran out of bladder space.  84R to KABQ 5:10 + 44gal.  The return, KABQ to 84R was 3:50 + 30gal non-stop.  That trip is 565 nm each way. 

 

My Mooney carries 52 gal usable.  That's a very long way.

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I've met you several times DrBill........was hoping to go on some PnP flights with you, and I am also based out of Wilgrove.  I would like to talk to you about this trip....

By all means try to get to KMRN November 15! Free lunch and there should be quite a few Mooniacs and their planes to meet and see. 

 

http://foothillsairport.com/blog/mooney-fly-in/

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By all means try to get to KMRN November 15th.

in/

To all you guys....be very careful up in the NC mountains in mid November! Ice, morning fog, and hills. Been there, done that.

Little Switzerland is a treat and Gary, the owner, is a first class Mooney party animal.

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