gregwatts Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Are they worth $1100? My David Clarks work fine....but I am curious to hear some owner reviews. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobwall Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Don't buy the Bluetooth version, it does not play music through bluetooth like Lightspeeds. They're incredibly comfortable and quiet but I've had to go through three different modules in the year I've owned the pair. I am very gentle with my headsets and Bose has no clue why they keep failing. To note, even though they fail ANR still works but muting when intercom is on doesn't work anymore and I've heard of other people having consistent issues with them. I am looking at selling mine to get the Zulu 2's as my Zulus have been rock solid for the three years I've had them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dawson Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I tried the zulu's and preferred the Bose with bluetooth. In the year and a half haven't had any problems. They do hook up to the radio or iPod via the plugin cord and the Bluetooth/ phone has always worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Are they worth $1100? My David Clarks work fine....but I am curious to hear some owner reviews. Thank you! The Bose really is that much better than the David Clark. But for the same price as a David Clark, you can get a Halo which is even better than the Bose. I don't have any affiliation with any of these companies, but I'm just really happy I found the Halo. I just wish I didn't spend so much money on the Bose first to find a cheaper headset that is better. The David Clark caused me fatigue (even when used to it) after 2 hours. The Bose I was comfortable with up to 4. The Halo I've worn for 8.5 hours non-stop and my ass hurt more from the seat than my head/ears from the headset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkingnorth Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have two pairs of A20's a pair of Bose aviation X's and a set of the lightspeeds. When I fly, it's typically for more than two hours at a time. I don't have a very large head and find that the A20's aren't as comfortable as the previous model Tens for trips longer than four hours. The A20's sound better though. The lightspeeds are nice but I don't feel that the ANR in the lightspeeds are as good. They are quiet but seem to distort certain frequencies of sound that I like to hear (stall horn). Overall, I like the Bluetooth A20's the best. (That's why I have two sets) well worth the money. I have a couple sets of sigtronics,(for the kids small heads) and a pair of David Clark's h20. I always reach for the A20's.. I know a lot of guys around the airport that are students that can't afford the Bose in one shot. Bose has a nice payment plan to help out in that department. Check their website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The Bose really is that much better than the David Clark. But for the same price as a David Clark, you can get a Halo which is even better than the Bose. I don't have any affiliation with any of these companies, but I'm just really happy I found the Halo. I just wish I didn't spend so much money on the Bose first to find a cheaper headset that is better. The David Clark caused me fatigue (even when used to it) after 2 hours. The Bose I was comfortable with up to 4. The Halo I've worn for 8.5 hours non-stop and my ass hurt more from the seat than my head/ears from the headset. I have seen your comments on the other thread for this headset. I have a pair of iPod headsets with the foam inserts. Really like them. I did not see any mention of how well the mic works on it. Any issues there? As we all know, it is the other half of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesm20b Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I bought a set of A-20 6 months ago and very happy with them. Used them for my recent 16.7 hour transcontinental trip across the U.S. and found them to be very comfortable and trouble free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Avalle Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have owned Bose headsets since they came out with their first one in the 90s. I love them. They are quiet, mine never failed, and I believe they are worth their price. Regarding the Bluetooth, I own one with Bluetooth but I really have not used the feature... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Whatever works for you that you can afford is fine. Just test them for as much time as you can before plucking down your hard earned bucks. To make a blanket statement that any brand is 'the best' for everyone is absurd. Oh yeah....I really enjoy my BOSE, which I paid $750 for when new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabanaboy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 If you buy a Zulu 2 direct from Light speed you can use their "trade-up" program (yes you must send in the old headset), and get $200 off. If you trade in your David Clark you pay $900-$200 or $700. http://www.lightspeedaviation.com/content/lightspeedaviation/CustomPages/tradeupprogram.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I still use the Bose series II's I was given in 1995. Love them. I have two pairs of the Bose Aviation X I acquired in my travels. I prefer the series II's. they are heavier, but way more comfortable. I have some QC15 headphones too, and those are very comfortable. I think I'm going to buy a microphone for them and use those from here on out. I would love to try the A20's, but they are expensive. Still going for $650 on eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wow, over 1 AMU just for a pair of headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wow, over 1 AMU just for a pair of headphones. Hey, you're a Mooney pilot. Treat yourself well, or no one else will. Didn't you guys spend 20 AMU's 'just' for a GPS and a GPSS? After that, maybe the only communications gear you could afford: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have the invoice in front of me from Sarasota. It reads $18,452, which included the GTN, GPSS, AERA 510 and repairs to the transponder and KAP 150. I'm not sure why I keep getting hammered on this, we priced a 530W just weeks before the GTN was announced and the total came in within $1,500. But one thing is for sure, I would not have gone this route had the upgrade not been split among the four of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have the invoice in front of me from Sarasota. It reads $18,452, which included the GTN, GPSS, AERA 510 and repairs to the transponder and KAP 150. What you fail to mention is that the above cost is before trade-in allowances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 What you fail to mention is that the above cost is before trade-in allowances. It was all worthless early 80's equipment such as the ADF and the KNS-80. Add to the mix that all of the display's had become delaminated and an odd color orange. Just as with new car sales, where the dealer gives you an "unbelievable" allowance on your old trade-in, they are merely lowering the cost of the car and shipping the jalopy to the wrecking yard. Same with avionics shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 It was all worthless early 80's equipment such as the ADF and the KNS-80. Add to the mix that all of the display's had become delaminated and an odd color orange. Just as with new car sales, where the dealer gives you an "unbelievable" allowance on your old trade-in, they are merely lowering the cost of the car and shipping the jalopy to the wrecking yard. Same with avionics shops. You should of had them throw in a couple of BOSE headsets, gratis of course So how much does installation and taxes add to your invoice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 You should of had them throw in a couple of BOSE headsets, gratis of course So how much does installation and taxes add to your invoice? That was the invoice total. Taxes amounted < $100, which was probably for supplies. As you know, FLA exempts sales tax on avionics upgrades. And a good thing it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="flyboy0681" data-cid="85197" data-time="1356720149"><p> <br /> It was all worthless early 80's equipment such as the ADF and the KNS-80. Add to the mix that all of the display's had become delaminated and an odd color orange.<br /> <br /> Just as with new car sales, where the dealer gives you an "unbelievable" allowance on your old trade-in, they are merely lowering the cost of the car and shipping the jalopy to the wrecking yard. Same with avionics shops.</p></blockquote> My KNS-80 is hardly worthless. Easier to use and see for DME than my 430W. I find it makes for a great DME and backup ILS Reciever.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 My KNS-80 is hardly worthless. Easier to use and see for DME than my 430W. I find it makes for a great DME and backup ILS Reciever.... Â Â Not worthless as in it has no use or function. I meant worthless as in it has no value on the used market. These units can be bought now for $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlunseth Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I have the A20 in the pilot's seat, and Bose X's elsewhere. I love the A20, very quiet and comfortable. I bought the bluetooth, not to stream music (which I can load onto my panel) but to be able to make phone calls to clearance delivery at nontowered airports. Before the Bose, I would have to stuff the cell phone under one earmuff to get my clearance, and even then it would be difficult to hear FSS and for them to hear me with the engine running. With the bluetooth it is crystal clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple8s Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I have the "X" and also the A20's personally I prefer the 20's the bluetooth is handy but a grand is still a lot of dough in my mind. I was lucky and recieved the 20's as a gift. I would like to try some of those earplug things I've been wondering how those work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 to me the Bose A-20 seemed comaprable to the Zulu.2. I got my wife a Zulu.2 a year ago and I just got one myself. I traded in a telex ANR and the total was 700$, which is enough of a discount to sway me to get it over the Bose. We just flew a 6 hour leg with it and it is pretty comfortable.  I put 6,000 hours on a Bose X and the wishbone struts kept breaking. More maddening that that was Bose's flat rate "recert" repair, 250$. I had it fixed three times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I have the "X" and also the A20's personally I prefer the 20's the bluetooth is handy but a grand is still a lot of dough in my mind. I was lucky and recieved the 20's as a gift. I would like to try some of those earplug things I've been wondering how those work. Â Try a set of Halos from Quiet Technologies in Mississippi. Phil is on this board somewhere, he is a fellow Mooniac [b-model?] and a nice guy when I met him at Sun-n-Fun last year after the tornado. There's a whole thread about these elsewhere, too. Some people use the foam inserts, I prefer the silicone ones [similar to what I wear shooting and used to wear at work]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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