WaynePierce Posted January 9, 2022 Report Posted January 9, 2022 My answer wasn't listed... I find it harder to get out of than other planes. 3 Quote
carusoam Posted January 9, 2022 Report Posted January 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, EricJ said: I think another myth is that they're so hard to work on. While there are tasks that are kinda difficult on Mooneys, that's true of many airplanes. Many things are far easiers on Mooneys than other airplanes, too. It turns out… Mooneys were way ahead of their time… A 60s Chevy… the mechanic can stand next to the engine while he changes the plugs…. With all of the excess space available… A Chevy today… has covers at the top and the bottom of the engine, similar to the dog house and cowling…. Everything is much tighter… Chevy supplies all kinds of specialized tools to work on their cars… Mooneys, every now and then use a cut off wrench or crows foot wrench… Some myths will die easier than others… Mooneys are no longer harder to work on… Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
EricJ Posted January 9, 2022 Report Posted January 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, WaynePierce said: My answer wasn't listed... I find it harder to get out of than other planes. When I told an old DPE friend that I'd bought a Mooney she said, "You have to do a little snake dance to get down into one, but they're pretty good airplanes." 1 1 Quote
hubcap Posted January 9, 2022 Report Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) I believe the "crammed interior" is the biggest myth. Compared to landing a Cessna or Piper the Mooney is much less forgiving if you don't fly the numbers. If you fly the numbers, it lands very well. I try to cross the threshold at about 72 - 74 kts and then have patience. Edited January 9, 2022 by hubcap Quote
toto Posted January 10, 2022 Report Posted January 10, 2022 The "small and crammed" interior myth is objectively untrue -- but a Mooney definitely has a unique seating position, and it's quite a bit different from a brand C or P cabin. I can definitely understand a Skylane driver getting into a Mooney for the first time feeling awkward. 1 Quote
201er Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, MooneyMitch said: Biggest Mooney myth.......being sucked out of a Mooney when the door pops open in flight !! Apparently that only happens in Taylorcraft. 1 2 Quote
toto Posted January 10, 2022 Report Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, 201er said: Apparently that only happens in Taylorcraft. Fortunately, it usually happens when you're wearing a sport parachute and holding a selfie stick. 1 Quote
Hank Posted January 10, 2022 Report Posted January 10, 2022 6 hours ago, WaynePierce said: My answer wasn't listed... I find it harder to get out of than other planes. It's not so much difficult to get out of as it is impossible to get out of gracefully, especially from the right seat. 1 1 Quote
A64Pilot Posted January 10, 2022 Report Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, EricJ said: A friend has a gorgeous Swift with a six-cylinder Continental IO-360. It is slower, by quite a bit, than my J. There's something about the Swift that is apparently pretty draggy, but I don't know what it is. Awesome airplane otherwise. My SWAG is the wing. A Mooney for a GA airplane actually has a very “good” wing Edited January 10, 2022 by A64Pilot Quote
201er Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Posted January 10, 2022 23 hours ago, A64Pilot said: I don’t know what that is, but it doesn’t look like a Mooney, Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted January 10, 2022 Report Posted January 10, 2022 It's not so much difficult to get out of as it is impossible to get out of gracefully, especially from the right seat.There is no way of getting out of a Mooney elegantly! Specially after a long flight! But while you are inside I find it very comfortable.Also, on landing… if you manage a stabilized approach and you respect the speeds it is very easy to land, even I a strong gusty crosswind.OscarSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
201er Posted January 10, 2022 Author Report Posted January 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, Oscar Avalle said: There is no way of getting out of a Mooney elegantly! Specially after a long flight! You should see @carusoam getting out of a Mooney. He'll show you how it's done! Apparently it's a skill that needs to be relearned after a hiatus! 1 1 Quote
PT20J Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 The biggest myth is that Mooneys are cheap to buy and own. The owners that believe this have the airplanes no one wants to buy and a trail of mechanics that no longer want to work on their airplanes. 3 Quote
carusoam Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 6 hours ago, 201er said: You should see @carusoam getting out of a Mooney. He'll show you how it's done! Apparently it's a skill that needs to be relearned after a hiatus! Getting in, getting out… don’t slam the door when closing it, don’t lean on the door when exiting it… just like riding a bike… Amazing how some things are easy to forget… We’re celebrating 10 year since those days went by… Best regards, -a- Quote
PT20J Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, carusoam said: Getting in, getting out… don’t slam the door when closing it, don’t lean on the door when exiting it… just like riding a bike… Amazing how some things are easy to forget… We’re celebrating 10 year since those days went by… Best regards, -a- Yeah, let's see you gracefully exit the back seats in one with retractable front shoulder harnesses Quote
carusoam Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 Oddly, We used to discuss pushing the front passenger seat forwards to get to the pilot’s seat… I used to do this dance when loading the kids…. Me, kids, then wife… Similar to a well coordinated ballet… every step optimized… Solely because we could… Best regards, -a- Quote
haymak3r Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 7:28 PM, corn_flake said: I found the Mooney to be easier to land than Cessna as long as you fly by the number. Point and shoot. I even done one in complete darkness with no light. Cessna tend to wonder all over the place. Establishing a stabilized approach in a Cessna in anything other than calm wind is not easy. At least for me. I too have the same results. Landing my Mooney seems easier than the 172 I had been flying during my training. Was a great relief lol. Quote
PilotX Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 I think one of the biggest myths is that there is a Mooney model, or any plane for that matter, that is better than a Bravo. Just saying. 2 2 Quote
Andy95W Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) Before they renamed it the Bravo, it was the TLS. It was the top of the line 30 years ago when I bought my first Mooney, and I still want one. Edited January 11, 2022 by Andy95W 2 Quote
0TreeLemur Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 23 hours ago, carusoam said: We’re celebrating 10 year since those days went by… Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
0TreeLemur Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Andy95W said: Before they renamed it the Bravo, it was the TLS. It was the top of the line 30 years ago when I bought my first Mooney, and I still want one. @Andy95W will you post a higher resolution version of this? I'd like to see the numbers. Thx. Fred Quote
Andy95W Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 I wish I could, Fred. I googled Mooney advertisements and found that and remembered seeing it in Flying magazine or something. That picture was the highest resolution I could get off the interwebs. 1 Quote
0TreeLemur Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Andy95W said: I wish I could, Fred. I googled Mooney advertisements and found that and remembered seeing it in Flying magazine or something. That picture was the highest resolution I could get off the interwebs. Aha! You gave me an idea. Found it. Now, I want one too. 1 1 Quote
steingar Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 Interior is small and crammed It is if you're wide of girth. Folks who fit fine in other aircraft have a tough time in Mooneys. It's a fact. Sucks for them, too. How fast they really go Mooneys really do go fast. Tail is on backwards Nope, everyone else's tail is on backwards. Mooney got it right. Difficult to land Took me an hour to land my Cherokee well. Took ten to land my Mooney well. Insurance asked for a one hour checkout n the Cherokee. Asked for ten in the Mooney. Poor useful load I can haul nearly a thousand pounds. I haven't seen another aircraft that can haul what I can at the speed I can for the money. 2 Quote
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