Open4cycle Posted February 15, 2020 Report Posted February 15, 2020 Hello all, I have access to a material spectrum analyzer that could quickly determine the alloy or each element percentage the original parts were manufactured . I would have to take the part to the analyzer as the analyzer isn't mine and it is a radioactive source. This could be done free of charge however I don't have an available part to analyze. The original part appears to be cast aluminum housing with a billet insert. The analyzer will only tell me what elements are in the alloy it scans not the process it was manufactured. (i.e. cast, forged, heat treated) If indeed there is a insert in the block as it appears then the insert could be replaced for considerably less amount. If interested in me machining parts to your specifics with CNC machinery please msg me. I can make the blocks for $300 or less, depends on your specifics. Thanks, Scott Quote
carusoam Posted February 16, 2020 Report Posted February 16, 2020 @Sabremech/David, See the note from o4c above me... regarding access to a material analyzer... Best regards, -a- Quote
Sabremech Posted February 16, 2020 Report Posted February 16, 2020 7 hours ago, carusoam said: @Sabremech/David, See the note from o4c above me... regarding access to a material analyzer... Best regards, -a- Thanks, but I had already dropped off my old part at the lab before we made contact. David 2 Quote
Sabremech Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Received the quote from the machine shop I use. Up Lock block — $305.62 each on an order of 10. Down Lock block — $356.62 each on an order of 10. I expect the report from the lab on the alloy any day now. Thanks, David 1 Quote
hammdo Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 I’ll take 1 of each ;o) -Don Quote
Skates97 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 I'm in for a set as well. I think I have the originals in my plane... Quote
Raptor05121 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Need a down lock block ASAP Quote
G spot Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 I am in for an up and down lock. Quote
Anders J Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Sabremech said: Received the quote from the machine shop I use. Up Lock block — $305.62 each on an order of 10. Down Lock block — $356.62 each on an order of 10. I expect the report from the lab on the alloy any day now. Thanks, David @Sabremech - this is the way to go. Got another quote from a shop in ATL. Just sharing - not viable. Line: 001 Expiration Date: 17-May-20 Gear Down Position Block 1 ea $1,877.00 10 ea $553.00 Line: 002 Expiration Date: 17-May-20 Gear Up Position Block 1 ea $1,942.00 10 ea $560.00 Quote
hammdo Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 Once we get the analysis, we should be ready! -Don Quote
jwarren2 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Count me in for a gear up position block. Quote
Rjfanjet Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 I also need the gear up block. Quote
Gone Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 8:36 PM, Sabremech said: Received the quote from the machine shop I use. Up Lock block — $305.62 each on an order of 10. Down Lock block — $356.62 each on an order of 10. I expect the report from the lab on the alloy any day now. Thanks, David David: I am in for a set as well, please. I will pay and if you send them to Clarence, he can install them. 1 Quote
Seymour Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 I need a set. (Yes, that sounds aberrant. If you only knew.....) Count me in for the order. Thanks, Dave 1 Quote
Supercop0184 Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 I’ll take a set also one of each! Quote
jamesm Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 #metoo I would like a set as well. James '67C Quote
Open4cycle Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 I removed my up lock block to blueprint and analyze today. I have not analyzed the material yet however it is definitely a cast aluminum piece. Which most likely will be A356. The tensile strength of A356 is 10000 psi and the hardness about 60-65 Brinell. 6061 has a tensile strength 35,000 psi, 95 Brinell. 2024 tensile strength 40,000 psi, 120 Brinell. 7075 tensile strength 56,000 psi 130 Brinell. If someone made the swap to extruded alloy then the tensile strength is overkill on all 3 alloys. Wear is the downfall of the cast blocks. 7075 will be the most wear resistant of all. Tomorrow I will have the material type of the OEM block confirmed and will report back. If anyone is interested in me fabricating the blocks from 7075 aluminum the price would be $300 ea. or $565 for the pair. This would include per request hard powder coating in transparent blue, transparent red, black chrome, red, black, white, orange, clear, or plain. I have a Fadal 4020 CNC mill needing some run time and I like to help a fellow J-bar operator out. Thanks, Scott Rickard 256-431-8877 Quote
rbridges Posted February 20, 2020 Report Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Open4cycle said: I removed my up lock block to blueprint and analyze today. I have not analyzed the material yet however it is definitely a cast aluminum piece. Which most likely will be A356. The tensile strength of A356 is 10000 psi and the hardness about 60-65 Brinell. 6061 has a tensile strength 35,000 psi, 95 Brinell. 2024 tensile strength 40,000 psi, 120 Brinell. 7075 tensile strength 56,000 psi 130 Brinell. If someone made the swap to extruded alloy then the tensile strength is overkill on all 3 alloys. Wear is the downfall of the cast blocks. 7075 will be the most wear resistant of all. Tomorrow I will have the material type of the OEM block confirmed and will report back. If anyone is interested in me fabricating the blocks from 7075 aluminum the price would be $300 ea. or $565 for the pair. This would include per request hard powder coating in transparent blue, transparent red, black chrome, red, black, white, orange, clear, or plain. I have a Fadal 4020 CNC mill needing some run time and I like to help a fellow J-bar operator out. Thanks, Scott Rickard 256-431-8877 You ever going to send me those teflon inserts that I paid for? You told me last July that you were going to mail them. Edited February 20, 2020 by rbridges Quote
Sabremech Posted February 21, 2020 Report Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Open4cycle said: I removed my up lock block to blueprint and analyze today. I have not analyzed the material yet however it is definitely a cast aluminum piece. Which most likely will be A356. The tensile strength of A356 is 10000 psi and the hardness about 60-65 Brinell. 6061 has a tensile strength 35,000 psi, 95 Brinell. 2024 tensile strength 40,000 psi, 120 Brinell. 7075 tensile strength 56,000 psi 130 Brinell. If someone made the swap to extruded alloy then the tensile strength is overkill on all 3 alloys. Wear is the downfall of the cast blocks. 7075 will be the most wear resistant of all. Tomorrow I will have the material type of the OEM block confirmed and will report back. If anyone is interested in me fabricating the blocks from 7075 aluminum the price would be $300 ea. or $565 for the pair. This would include per request hard powder coating in transparent blue, transparent red, black chrome, red, black, white, orange, clear, or plain. I have a Fadal 4020 CNC mill needing some run time and I like to help a fellow J-bar operator out. Thanks, Scott Rickard 256-431-8877 Hi Scott, I’m waiting on the results from the lab on my old down lock block for the alloy type. I did talk with them today and the report is being generated. The casting is not a standard alloy per the lab. Once the alloy is determined and the suitable new material chosen, the group can chose to have sets machined through your services or I can get my shop to manufacture them. We’re planning to anodize over powder coating. The color choice will be limited to one to keep the cost consistent. Thank you David 1 Quote
hammdo Posted February 21, 2020 Author Report Posted February 21, 2020 David, thanks for the help! Myself, I’m sticking with who ‘brung us’ this far... -Don 1 1 Quote
Sabremech Posted February 21, 2020 Report Posted February 21, 2020 Received the lab report and the cast aluminum alloy comes back as 5140. Thanks, David Quote
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