Tony Starke Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/gilbert/gilbert-dental-group-survives-second-plane-crash-in-14-months Edited September 21, 2018 by Tony Starke Quote
Marauder Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 2:21 AM, Tony Starke said: https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/gilbert/gilbert-dental-group-survives-second-plane-crash-in-14-months Wonder what the cause was for both. That is an incredibly to have two so close together. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
jlunseth Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 The first thing I would do is get a different mechanic. 1 Quote
ragedracer1977 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Never heard of having the passengers hold the doors open as speed brakes. Interesting concept. Do you think the Mooney I could have my wife hold the door open for a super slip? Quote
carusoam Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 See what @chrixxer is thinking... There is no benefit to having your first engine out experience... You are just as likely to have another one the following day, if not, plan that way anyway... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Tony Starke Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) I've watched the report twice and still havent seen a crash. Off field landings yes, crash no. Edited September 21, 2018 by Tony Starke Quote
Niko182 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 8:13 AM, Tony Starke said: I've watched the report twice and still havent seen a crash. Off field landings yes, crash no. Expand welcome to "the news". Quote
yvesg Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 I recall duting flight training two decades ago my instructor showing me how to open the doors of a Cessna 150 to control yaw if the rudder cables would break. Yves 1 Quote
Sabremech Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 2:56 AM, jlunseth said: The first thing I would do is get a different mechanic. Expand Really? Little is known and you assume it's a mechanics fault. Care to elaborate? 1 Quote
steingar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Landing a little Aeronca a little hot on a really short field my buddy had me open the door to slow us down a bit. Great field, fun airplane too. Quote
Hank Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 12:58 PM, steingar said: Landing a little Aeronca a little hot on a really short field my buddy had me open the door to slow us down a bit. Great field, fun airplane too. Expand But they opened the doors "to slow down" a gullwing Lancair! I bet those things grab an awful lot of air! Quote
EricJ Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 11:03 AM, yvesg said: I recall duting flight training two decades ago my instructor showing me how to open the doors of a Cessna 150 to control yaw if the rudder cables would break. Yves Expand I remember doing that! I also remember flying an entire pattern, including takeoff and landing, without touching the yoke. C150s are fun airplanes. Quote
steingar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 1:38 PM, EricJ said: I remember doing that! I also remember flying an entire pattern, including takeoff and landing, without touching the yoke. C150s are fun airplanes. Expand We didn't fly a whole pattern that way, but we did navigate in cruise flight by sticking our hands out the window. Great little airplane. As far as the unfortunate fellow that started this thread, airplane engines don't fail like that. There was something wrong with the way it was assembled or maintained, take your pick. Quote
kortopates Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 5:14 PM, steingar said: We didn't fly a whole pattern that way, but we did navigate in cruise flight by sticking our hands out the window. Great little airplane. As far as the unfortunate fellow that started this thread, airplane engines don't fail like that. There was something wrong with the way it was assembled or maintained, take your pick. Or flown! Statistically greater chance of fuel exhaustion or starvation - given so little is known yet.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
aviatoreb Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 3:15 AM, carusoam said: See what @chrixxer is thinking... There is no benefit to having your first engine out experience... You are just as likely to have another one the following day, if not, plan that way anyway... Best regards, -a- Expand That is a statement of statistical independence. However, there is a distinct possibility that these are not statistically independent events. Such as, maybe something the pilot is doing is increasing the probability of an engine out, and so the first may change the probability of the second, either increase it - or even decrease it (eg learns to listen to the engine, not starve it for fuel, etc). Or likewise something the mechanic is doing? 1 Quote
Mooney-Mark Posted September 23, 2018 Report Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 2:56 AM, jlunseth said: The first thing I would do is get a different mechanic. Expand Or maybe buy a twin. Quote
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