Browncbr1 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Posted July 23, 2015 Just spent some time with Catto Propeller talking spinners. I may have a way to solve the high price spinner by having carbon fiber spinners made. David If that's the case, you've got to come up with natural carbon finish! 1 Quote
bradp Posted July 23, 2015 Report Posted July 23, 2015 Just need a good way of electrically insulating the carbon fiber from the important bits. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Browncbr1 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Posted July 24, 2015 Would there be a way to avoid pulling the prop ?? or would there be no way to avoid that labor and re-balancing? Quote
flyntgr1 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Posted July 24, 2015 I would guess if you already have the 201 spinner bulkhead mounted, then you could get away without removing it. Quote
Sabremech Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Posted July 24, 2015 Hi Flyntgr1, That is correct. If you have the old style spinner and backing plate, then the prop would need to be removed to change the backing plates out. Thanks, David Quote
Guest Posted July 25, 2015 Report Posted July 25, 2015 Just spent some time with Catto Propeller talking spinners. I may have a way to solve the high price spinner by having carbon fiber spinners made. David David, Have you checked with www.tcbcomposite.com They have quite a few models as well as manufacturing capabilities. Clarence Quote
Browncbr1 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Posted July 25, 2015 I know I had asked before, but do you think you will be making the cowl work with non-201 spinners? Really, that's the only reason I don't already have the swta cowl. The cost of new spinner and backplate, plus removing the prop and doing another dynamic balance. Not to mention new motor mounts, as I understand that is advisable when setting up a new cowl. It all added up to too much. Quote
Sabremech Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Posted July 25, 2015 Hi Clarence, I did check with TCB and didn't find the diameter that I need for my mod. Hi Browncbr1, I've looked at it a little and I don't think I can work the round inlets in and I know I can't get the air filter in the left cylinder air inlet without the cowl moved forward a bit. It could be done if I made a whole new cowling but the air filter would have to remain where it is. I'll look at it some more when I get further along in the current mod. Thank you, David Quote
N601RX Posted July 25, 2015 Report Posted July 25, 2015 Check with cumming spinners. Their aluminum spinners are very reasonable. Quote
Sabremech Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Posted July 25, 2015 Hi N601RX, I looked at Cummins Spinners and they look great. I'm hesitant to use a company outside of the U.S. other than Canada. It complicates the whole FAA certification process. Thank you, David Quote
bonal Posted July 25, 2015 Report Posted July 25, 2015 An unpainted carbon fiber spinner would look ausome 1 Quote
Sabremech Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Posted July 29, 2015 Time for final fitting of the new cowling pieces, then on to riveting the parts together. David 3 Quote
carusoam Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 David, Did you see somebody mention (today in another thread) something about updating a Rocket's cowl...? Just connecting some threads... Keep up the good work Quote
Sabremech Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Posted July 29, 2015 Hi carusoam, I didn't see that. Is someone looking to make anew cowl for the Rocket? Thanks, David Quote
carusoam Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 David, It was a question coming from a new MSer... http://mooneyspace.com/topic/16035-upgraded-cowl-for-m20k/ Best regards, -a- Quote
Sabremech Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Posted July 29, 2015 Hi carusoam, I went looking and found the thread. It could be done and I might look at it when I'm done with all the vintage models. It's not easy but challenging and rewarding when a prototype is close to being finished. Thanks, David Quote
Ned Gravel Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 Yah. Leave the man alone. We want our vintage cowls brought into this century. Ned Gravel Lucky steward of C-FSWR, a '65 E model at Rockcliffe, Ontario, (CYRO) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 4 Quote
aviatoreb Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 Time for final fitting of the new cowling pieces, then on to riveting the parts together. David image.jpg Oh my gosh! You are an engineering artist! I had not been following this thread! Mine too please! I am sure the J's....and the K's would love an update too.... I know I would! Although a bit more complicated because for a rocket the original K-cowl almost fits, except for a minor bump near the front left for a cylinder. Quote
StinkBug Posted August 4, 2015 Report Posted August 4, 2015 I'm loving this and have been watching for a while. Only thing I'm a little confused on is the spinner. I have the hartzell top prop on my C with the long pointed spinner. Will this work with your cowling? I know it's a topic that's been brought up before but most of the conversation was on the later model OEM spinner and I'm not familiar enough to know the difference. 1 Quote
Sabremech Posted August 4, 2015 Author Report Posted August 4, 2015 That's a good question. It will depend on a couple of things, what is the diameter of your spinner at the base and where is it mounted on the propeller? I'll try to post a picture of my spinner backing plate installation and the diameter of the 201 spinner is 14 inches. Thank you, David Quote
StinkBug Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 I'll try to remember to measure and take some pics when I'm at the airport tomorrow Quote
Marauder Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 David -- I apologize for not following this closer. What are the target planes for this mod and will it work with planes that have been modified with the 201 windshield? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Raptor05121 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Posted August 5, 2015 Hi Cliffy, I'll include the D. It might not be in the first STC just like the pre 66 airplanes, but I do plan on doing an STC for the 65 and older birds. There's a cowling set on EBay right now I'm contemplating buying for the early planes at a reasonable price. I think I get them for the future mod. It will work with the three blade prop with the correct part number spinner. I'll work more on specifics of that later on in the mod. David I'm also interested in this bit. I'm looking at a '63 M20D with a 3-blade Hartzell and a cowling might be the first major mod, I think, Quote
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