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Am I the only person here who thinks the buyer was knowingly involved in a scam to defraud the owner of the shop? He knew he was depriving the owner of money. I have trouble finding any sympathy for the buyer.

The sale of my great Bravo is complete, I’m flying it tomorrow to store it in my hanger until the new owner gets back. 17 years of ownership with no mechanical problems except normal maintenance. Only hope my next plane is as good. DB

12 and 14V are the same system. The battery is a 12V battery, the alternator is set to put out 14V. There has to be a 14V potential to charge the 12V battery. Sometimes the system is called a 12V and sometimes a 14V.

3.18 pounds. Both the same.

The installation location for the GMU11 is not just based on convenience, but where it will actually work given the equipment on the aircraft. As mentioned by others, the installation manual describes how to do the survey to determine the best installation location. That said, mine is back there in the tail on a fabricated shelf.

I must say Mooney did a nice job making these.

You’re kidding, right? I worked for a multibillion dollar company for nearly 2 decades as employee # under 1000 to 70,000 upon acquisition- that did gobs of business with SVB, appreciated 90,000 percent, and then I went on to work at several startups propped up by SVB. Have a couple of IPO’s, a much larger number of acquisitions and failures under my belt. One particular group has been programmed to measure one a other by the virtue they show. Save the puppies, save the children, cure world hunger, let transgender people have special privileges in religious schools, save the homeless, criminal reform, give everyone “free healthcare, education and basic income”, basically right every wrong in the world by forcibly taking taxpayer money - and charging a handling fee as a politician overtly or covertly for making people feel good about being virtuous. Bankruptcy trustees have nothing on some local city councilmen. The big scam which was limited to a few geographies went national and global in the last dozen or so years. It’s always been there but it is now institutionalized and protected by courts. Dodd / frank created the big collapse but now people are saying it didn’t- if only we kept worshipping those two, all would be rosy. The gall… Japan? Try more like China. There is a difference between where we should go and where we are headed …Kids are being wholesale indoctrinated on the benefits of socialism, Marxism and communism. Plenty of social media pride by “educators” who’ve never set foot in Soviet Russia, haven’t lived in North Korea, who allege criticizing the CCP is racist, and dismiss Venezuela as a tiny country they can’t find on a map. But don’t get their pronouns wrong…. Priorities. Can you explain to them what a bank is? Short of how it works with Venmo to spend the money their parents give them, or how they got financial aid on time, they don’t care. A balanced budget? Great thinking, but California realized that providing free healthcare was even too big a scam to not be noticed since it was estimated at $400bn to give free healthcare to undocumented people, knowing full well the real cost would be in the trillions. And even in light of a budget shortfall, Gavin is considering reparations in a state that never supported slavery. Over $100bn will have been spent on the “bullet train” and California won’t own a train station, track or train…but progress is good and fast trains are sexy. People don’t want to accept that government money comes from the people…and every corrupt construction project that kicks back money to the approving politician benefits only the lawmakers and hurts the public. SVB has for a long time been a ponzi scheme along with Vc and PE pump and dump raiders who make money in creative ways all while raising the cost of all. We saw $7 and $8 dollar gas in California and things will never normalize now that the cat is out of the bag or the camels nose is in the tent. You like paying $8 due q carton of eggs at the store? But some people say we are living under the greatest administration in history. As others have said, it’s just the start. Makes me feel good to see more multi trillion dollar bills pass while China demands their balloon back that our government says isn’t theirs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Having operated an aging engine with an assortment of minor oil leaks for years, I'll opine two things: The amount of oil you're seeing is not even remotely close to a safety concern, though I appreciate that it's annoying, and it would be nice to know where it's coming from. In an airplane that actually gets flown, there is very little correlation between where oil is leaking from, and where it winds up inside the cowl. If you really want to know where an oil leak is coming from, you have completely and meticulously wash the engine with a degreaser, then try one of the tricks that identifies leak spots: foot powder, talc, UV dye in the oil, etc. I'm not saying it's not coming from the breather tube and the "whistle slot" hole that's intended to keep it from freezing shut. But the fact that tube is in the vicinity of the drips on your cowl cheek panel isn't very strong evidence for that particular hypothesis.

But look how clean it is!

Many with normally-aspirated engines run wide-open throttle during takeoff, climb, and cruise, only pulling it back for approach and landing.

Socialized losses, but privatized profits

The OP bought the GTN directly from "Joe Blow" "Purchased GTN650xi directly from the manager" The OP did not buy the GTN directly from Garmin The OP did not buy the GTN from an Authorized Garmin Dealer There is no sales receipt from Garmin or the Authorized Garmin Dealer If there is any sales record it will be: A $10K check to the personal account of "Joe Blow" A $10K Venmo or Zelle transfer to the personal account of "Joe Blow" Alternatively it may have just been a bag of cash..... And no one has mentioned "Where is and who paid the sales tax due to the State and City"? AOPA notes that there is a 4% State and 1-4% Local tax on the sale of Aviation Products in Georgia The State of Georgia and Local City have been defrauded out of $500-800 The more this “Discount Scheme” is discussed the worse it looks for the OP. Unwitting or intentional it puts the OP in a bad light and raises the question that the OP could be part of the scheme - taking it to court could bring all this to the attention of a Judge raising the question of not only highlighting the crime of the Service Manager but also the intention and possible participation of the OP. - and could result in 2 charges Georgia Code §16-8-7(a) - Theft by receiving stolen property Failure to pay taxes

Your title says a 1953 C, not 63 but we get it. There is no alternate air in the cockpit on my 1963 C model. Also, when I bought my C model 17 years ago, there was no ELT switch in the panel. I have since had one installed when I upgraded the ELT a few years ago but originally mine did not have one either. My climb is a bit different than yours. I do not pull the prop back, nor do I pull the throttle back until I am leveling off at whatever altitude I am leveling off at. I do have to lean a bit as I climb and prior to 4000 feet because I have the richer version of the carburetors that were available for our engine and to avoid running a little rough in the climb with an overly rich mixture I have to begin leaning sooner than 4000 feet MSL. By keeping my prop and throttle full, I can climb at a shallower angle at a higher airspeed and my cylinders stay below 400 in the climb unless it is just a blistering hot Texas day.

Here is how I spent my money.

Here's a couple of pages from the controller handbook about getting cleared direct to the IF for an approach. Angle less than 90 degrees and you must be held at MVA until the IF.

This discussion is getting loony. I don’t understand why otherwise logical people are automatically leaping to the conclusion that the shop received an insurance reimbursement for the GTN and at the same time was paid the full price for the GTN by the OP. It has been clearly stated that the insurance company was involved to try to recover the stolen goods for return to the MSC. Logically if they could not recover the stolen goods, they would seek on behalf the MSC to recover, monies equal to the cost of the goods (ie get the plane owners to pay the MSC) which is what the OP paid to the MSC. Additionally, this “OP paid for the GTN twice“ statement has no relevance. The OP paid the MSC once for the GTN. He unfortunately also paid 80% of that amount (after getting the phantom 20% discount) to the personal account of an individual who just happened to be the Avionics manager. The theft and deceptive sale was by and with the avionics manager.

1) Go to Configuration Mode (with the GTN turned off, press and hold the HOME key and apply power to the GTN. Release the HOME key when the display activates and the Garmin logo appears fully lit on the screen. ) 2) Touch GTN Setup 3) Touch Ownship 4) Touch Color Ownship 5) Switch off GTN

Here are some application photos. Still waiting on a date. Something with engineering and drawings.

Mine is not. Maybe I have the "CB" model!

Based at ERV… I RON’d at ERV about 10 years ago when my in-laws lived in Bandera. What model ELT do you have? I had a portable EBC mounted to the sidewall behind the pilot’t seat, which I switched out for an ACK 406 MHz mounted on the equipment rack in the tail. The ACK came with a panel mounted control panel. On climb out, after gear retraction, I set the RPM to 2650, full throttle and mixture. On a hot day (>100), I accelerate to 120 mph for climb to keep the CHTs mostly below 400, mostly. The mx manual for the D model specs 2.4” opening on the cowl flaps, vs 1.1” for the C. When I got my C in 2008 the cowl flaps were set to the D spec, so I reset them to the C spec. This was before I installed the UBG-16. After seeing actual CHTs on the UBG, I started accelerating to 120+ mph for CHT management. When I replaced my mixture cable 5 or 6 years ago, I discovered interference at full mixture between the arm and the throttle cable support bracket. I’m still getting close to 17 gph fuel flow at full throttle on take off, but I wonder if I had that extra few thousandths throw, how much extra fuel flow would that be? Mooney later changed the throttle support bracket to mount at the top only, the lower mount was eliminated, I think because of the interference. I suppose a later model throttle support cable bracket could be retrofitted, if the motivation were there. If someone is looking for more fuel flow at full throttle/mixture, this might be something to check.

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Top Gun is pretty much a no brainer here.

I only disagreed with you saying that you didn’t need to check distance as well as course to verify being established on a specific segment of the approach. Blanket statements like that make it look like that’s acceptable on any approach and it’s not.

I love all the panel pictures. I like seeing how people do different things. I need to get to work on the CGR-30 combo! Those look good. After a beautiful flight yesterday, I am motivated to keep working on the plane.

The manager stated to the OP that he could and would order the unit directly and pass on the savings on the mark up to the OP. Then he stole the unit from the company inventory. So, while the OP should have questioned this practice, he did not realize that he was receiving a stolen unit. Just that the DoA was screwing his company out of the markup.

Yes there is appearance of double dipping. All arrests in GA are on the web and there is no indication of an arrest upon this service manager. So criminal charges have not been pursued which means there is restitution somewhere in this pile. The shop owner by his own admissions has said his shop was deceptive in a previous repair upon the airplane. How much and to whom? We don't know, but a small claims actions has some nice features to it. 1.Everyone is sworn in at the start so anything and everything said is automatically under penalty of perjury 2. Rules of evidence are relaxed 3.The plaintiff is allowed to address the court in plain language and without the need for a lawyer. The magistrate is supposed to protect rights and benefits 4.The plaintiff can issue subpoena to the service manager, the shop records and the insurance company. 5. The maximum amount is 10K which would work here Have everyone put all their cards face up on the table and get to the bottom.

Well, I worked through the menu to turn Autoswitch on in the 750. The 750 manual is really clear. When I get to the screen where you can elect Autoswitch the icon simply is not there. I told that to the installer (good shop by the way) and he said it would be directed by the 275, which is what lead me to the section of the 275 manual I quoted.

I used the MSC at Cable over five years ago for my pre-buy. I can't say they were awful, but I wasn't exactly impressed, either; missed some things I thought they should have caught (leaking prop hub, for one). I haven't been back. I went to Top Gun for my first annual and was happy with them, if pricey. I'm going back to them this year. As @kortopates says, tough to recommend an MSC around LA. It's about 2 hours Mooney time to SCK from the LA Basin...

If you’re a legitimate purchaser, you sue to enforce your rights when asked by a seller to pay again to get the benefit of the bargain you contracted for. You don’t just pay again and hope for the best. Breach of contract is the cause of action, not some convoluted, paper-thin “oh poor me, I’m the victim” story cooked up afterward to explain multiple irrational decisions directly contrary to the plaintiff’s claimed rights. This is burning your house down to get rid of a housefly. Anyway, now that I’ve demonstrated why I wanted to stay out of this thread (damn it!), I’m off to apply for a job at the internet law firm of Bing Google LLP.

Nothing says he has to file three actions for one recovery, either. The court has a long memory. Which constitutes bad faith and abuse of legal process, since the action is brought for an improper purpose. A great way to guarantee angering the judge.

You mean AV-20-S I think unless you’re going to make the hole bigger.

Well, before I had my JPI930 installed the RPMs looked just fine to me. Then the 930 went in. The sensor and the 930’s readout ability is vastly better than the old factory analog gauge. So for years I would see just a slight over speed at takeoff. Say 2710 or 20. Then it would settle back. We tried fiddling with the governor screw but there was always about a 30 or 40 rpm variation at the top end. When it went over 2700 (the redline) I would usually try to adjust it back with the prop knob, but adjusting out just 10 or 20 rpms does not work very well. Now I max out at about 2680, with the speed sometimes as low as 60 or even 50. It is in the realm where we really can’t adjust the governor to exactly 2700, in light of the sensitivity of the sensor and JPI there is always a little variation.

I agree with most of your comments, but here’s a couple nit picks… 1. You said “Once you turn inbound, you are actually on an intermediate segment (note the thick black line), which is a published segment of the approach and you can then descend in protected airspace to the altitude at the FAF.” However, you still need to look at the distance to the faf to see which intermediate segment you’re on. This approach it didn’t matter, others it does. See example below. You need to fly the segment you are on, not just to the FAF. It is easy to get vectors out past DIYSA (4.5 to the FAF) and then turn inbound and bust the step down if you descend to the FAF altitude. 2.Also, getting direct to the IF is definitely possible. You may get “cleared direct to CAPOG, maintain 4200 (mva) until established. Cleared the approach.” Depends on the mva where you are. You have 6nm after CAPOG to descend which will be a little over 4 degrees, not terrible, and better than what he actually had to do. You can start an approach at an IF, but ATC has limits to the maximum angle of your direct course to the IF, 90 degrees I think, but we’ll have to check my source. An IAF allows more flexibility for that initial turn, but an IF is fine if you’re roughly aligned. PS. I have the same exact background/certifications as your friend, did we talk?!

Ok, now that you are square with the shop and the insurer, their turn in the barrel. 1. File suit in small claims court for the damage and fraudulent repairs. The maximum is 10, 000 dollars. No lawyers required. Put the shop in the position of defending their larcenous manager. A good part of your case is..."If he was honest in the repairs on your airplane, why did the shop fire him and place insurance claims for his malfeasance? 2. File another claim against the shop in small claims that should they get any insurance proceeds or in any way recover from their manager's malfeasance with you on the Garmin unit, you get the money. You paid them and squared away the problem, you're now entitled to any recovery 3. File a similar claim against the insurance company. Since you paid off the unit, any recovery of funds is now rightfully yours. Remember one thing. The mother stopped Solomon from splitting the baby, because she was very certain he would split the baby. Leave them no doubt either.

That's what we get when we roll back some key parts of the Dodd-Frank law.

Essentially what has happened is the fed just nationalized the banking industry. you could eliminate much of the banking problem if the management and directors were held liable for malfeasance. long term we should be terrified because the fed and beyond the fed, the world bank, is leading us to digital currency. Digital currencies will give “them” ultimate control over how we spend our money. All about control.

New Style Counter Weights for AD 2023-02-04 are now available from any Mooney Service Center. Kit Pn.# M20-345-001

Long story short, the Scottsdale FSDO says that’s fine. His example was: Owner comes to a fabricator. Has a part made. Fabricator sees they can make 5 parts out of the one chunk of specific material they had to buy. Totally OK to make 5 and put 4 on the shelf. Fabricator can’t advertise them, but if the original owner who requested the part tells his friends about it, they can can go and buy them as OPP.

Thanks everyone. After reading through the feedback, I am going to keep the KI-208 installed and connected to KX-165 for now.The GI-275 system will be connected to the GTN750. I am contemplating having the installer add a switch to instruct the KFC-150 AP which NAV Source to use, cons being getting confused in the rush of things and have AP be driven by nav2 while I am looking at Nav1). Might be better to practice and hand fly if nav1 fails. Here's what I am thinking for failure scenarios: Two installed GI-275s with revisionary mode and battery backup. I will always have attitude information if any unit fails. If the HSI fails, the ADI will show heading and lateral/vertical guidance, see picture below (agree w/ @kortopates thoughts from the other thread ) If I loose power from the aircraft, battery backup on the ADI will kick in to keep one unit operational If the GMU-11 magnetometer fails, can use magnetic compass but likely ask for help with course correction from ATC. Will ask if its possible to add a backup one. Moot point if it requires system power. If GTN fails, KX-165 becomes the navigation source If KX-165 fails, don't care but expedite landing Reason to keep the KI-208 for now is that there is not much point to removing it. If I am going with the bigger displays, probably have the integrated EIS as well. Once I get the IR and have flown for a bit, I will be looking at adding a bigger display like the G3X and the existing 275s will be come backup at the time adding sufficient redundancy. Similar to @donkaye's setup. Also looking at 650 upgrade for the KX-165.

Not the best pictures, but the whole engine instrument / circuit breaker panel comes out, along with the shelf underneath and the side panel that the shunts are bolted too. There are two screws from outside, in front of the door, a couple underneath, another few on top. Most of the wires have a CPC connector, but there are a fw that are not. Notably the battery and alternator wires that each in right to the bus bars. I am doing a complete avionics makeover, so it was worth my while to remove. I also got setup with proper CPC pins, crimpers, removal tools etc. so I can clean up the installation nicely. It will be tedious, but I think you will be able to change the shunt from on top. Also, do you have a 14 or 28V aircraft - check the shunt specs, it might be the same as the JPI shunt? I was really tempted to leave the OEM ammeter in place and ignore the JPI ammeter part of the installation. Aerodon

Exciting news! Panel installed and first power up. AATG will start configurations, calibrations, and weight and balance beginning next week.

I would contact Eric Rudningen at Oasis Aero and see if he has time. Oasis Aero is at Willmar. Eric has probably flown every Mooney there is. He is one of the owners of Oasis, which is a Mooney MSC. You can look Oasis up by googling it and you will get Eric’s number. The other great Mooney instructor who is sometimes in that area is Bruce Jaeger, who owned the predecessor of Oasis for a very long time. He was my instructor when I did my commercial. I don’t know how to reach him though, and he is semi-retired, I don’t know if he still instructs. If you contact Eric and he cannot do it, he may be able to recommend someone else who is proficient in Mooneys.

Beer, Mormons, and Brand P… We may have left the reservation… I always wanted to ask @toomany how many is too many? But, I think I have the answer now… Best regards, -a-

I last flew a Comanche 50 years ago and still remember the flights in it. It was fast, comfortable, and looked cool through the eyes of a 17 year old. I was the typical airport kid, who worked for the FBO owner/CFI/mechanic. I washed and fueled airplanes and helped him in the maintenance shop. He would let me fly airplanes over to Montgomery Al to have radio work done on his airplanes as well as owners airplanes. My checkout in the Comanche consisting of the owner squatting on the wing and pointing out the starter switch and the gear selector and saying “raise the gear when you takeoff and don’t forget to let it down when you land”. Does this count as a high performance endorsement? I got to fly a lot of different airplanes while in high school, including a Stearman. He did check me out in the Stearman though (3 trips around the pattern). those were different times, Lee

"If you can't be with the one you love, then love the one you're with"

It is but Mooney ULs of 1100+ are relegated to just a few Eagles and Encores. However, the early Fs do quite well. Mine has UL of 1060lbs which means 676lbs in the cabin with full fuel (64gals). If I were eligible for the late model 200hp mid body 2900lb GW increase, I'd be at 1220lbs useful. In terms of range/payload flexibility, I can take more weight a longer distance, than several of the C182s on the field...I just don't say it in the pilot lounge for fear of disrupting the delicate aviation bullshit time/space continuum... It's for the same reason that I hesitate to say that my buddy's Comanche 250 had nothing on my F in terms of payload/range flexibility and less max range. Never let real numbers ruin someone's religious beliefs about an airplane. It's a losing proposition.

Hmm, my 252/Encore does 175 KTAS on 10.3 GPH, has an 1119 UL, and can go 1500 miles with IFR reserves. I have 104 gallon capacity, so can also tanker fuel when I find it cheap.

The o-ring is MS29512-6 and the washer AN6291-6. Washer is ok so I'm just going to replace the o-rings... On order from Spruce... -Don

Love the dual G5’s. More gadgets to me aren’t better.

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