PeytonM Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Just had my left shoulder rotator cuff repair surgery Feb 12. I’m planning to be out of the airplane for 20 weeks. That is what it was for the other shoulder 12 years ago. I’ll re-emphasize what others have said: 1) find a surgeon who has done thousands of these. in fact, go to large PT center and ask who has had the best outcomes. You’ll likely only hear one name. 2) follow the doc’s PT regimen to the letter 3) do not screw it up; redo has poor success rate. Hopping in the airplane a month or two early does not make sense. You’ll realize after the first two or three months of PT that you for sure don’t want to have to repeat that!! 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 PT today is not PT of the old days. You need to push a little bit to get better, but they tend to not push at all. But the goal of PT is to get you functional to get through the things you need to do. Once they cut you loose, then find a gym and a personal trainer with rehab experience. They will get you to the best you can be. I have been through serious PT twice (long term hospital, basically had to learn to walk again). And in both cases PT only got me partially to MY goal. The trainer did the rest (along with a LOT of personal motivation). 1 Quote
carusoam Posted Tuesday at 12:45 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:45 AM Way cool… I’m not the only one who got trained in how to walk again…. a casual day at the gym… you will find before work hours… lots of working people, in a rush to get through their routine… late morning… is all the blue hairs working all their joints… light weights, lots of reps… afternoons… all the teenagers trying to show how little they know about how muscles work… or how machines work… or how to be nice… afterwork… the crazy busy hours begin… After eight… you have the whole gym to yourself… best regards, -a- Quote
carusoam Posted Tuesday at 12:57 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:57 AM Done properly… you can get all the joints working silky smoothly… build some muscle nice and evenly… over time… you can win medals in your age group at any 5K you want to enter… like getting the right Mooney cfi… get the right trainer… if you have extra… some time with their dietician is always fun… eat less starch. Drink less beer… and listen to all the conversations going on around you… mostly wacky ideas being discussed by the young guns… a few will discuss politics… and stock markets… Work on muscle memory… getting full motion… and some strength… Come away feeling better, physically and about yourself… PP thoughts only, not a physical therapist… 2 Quote
carusoam Posted Tuesday at 01:01 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:01 AM If for some reason… it feels like it will take 10 years for the full recovery to happen… just know in 10 years you will still be alive flying a Mooney… knowing it IS worth it… Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
PeytonM Posted Tuesday at 01:04 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:04 AM Thanks for the kind words of advice Quote
carusoam Posted Tuesday at 01:09 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:09 AM +1 for following the guidance you are given… +1 for asking prior to doing something different… it can be un-fun at times… keep it up… you can get to where you want to be… for anyone that has crunchiness in their joints… this can be helpful as well… Still not therapist… Best regards, -a- Quote
DCarlton Posted Tuesday at 04:22 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:22 AM On 6/11/2022 at 9:07 AM, RobertGary1 said: Looks like I may need to do this. How long should I expect to be unable to fly? How long did they say your PT would be? I hurt my shoulder loading a toilet into a truck. Couldn’t even lift my arm to tune the radio. Even with surgery, Dr said It was unlikely that I would get full range of motion back. PT therapist said the same thing. She pushed me for weeks and I finally got my range of motion back. PT is essential. However long that is estimated to take after surgery might be your answer. Quote
MikeOH Posted Tuesday at 12:54 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:54 PM My takeaway from this thread: Do NOT screw up your shoulder! 3 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted Tuesday at 02:15 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:15 PM 1 hour ago, MikeOH said: My takeaway from this thread: Do NOT screw up your shoulder! It isn’t always something you did. Sometimes it is just bad DNA. 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM 13 hours ago, carusoam said: Way cool… I’m not the only one who got trained in how to walk again…. a casual day at the gym… you will find before work hours… lots of working people, in a rush to get through their routine… late morning… is all the blue hairs working all their joints… light weights, lots of reps… afternoons… all the teenagers trying to show how little they know about how muscles work… or how machines work… or how to be nice… afterwork… the crazy busy hours begin… After eight… you have the whole gym to yourself… best regards, -a- You forgot the early to late morning, where all the hot moms are working on staying hot. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted Tuesday at 02:53 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:53 PM 23 minutes ago, Pinecone said: You forgot the early to late morning, where all the hot moms are working on staying hot. The one thing that bothers the hot moms more than checking them out while they work out, is not checking them out.... 1 3 Quote
hubcap Posted Tuesday at 04:07 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:07 PM I have had procedures performed on both of my shoulders. The left shoulder wasn’t as bad as the right shoulder. I had PRP (platelet rich plasma) performed on the left shoulder and the results have been remarkable. I would say it’s about 99% as good as new based on the way it feels. My right shoulder was much worse, so the Dr performed a stem cell procedure on it. I would say it’s about 97% as good as new based on the way it works and feels. Both procedures are “out patient” and no knives are used. Recovery is a few days and the healing process continues for up to 9 months. Would do either procedure again without reservations. I am thinking about having stem cells done on my knee. If you have a bad shoulder at least check out either of these options before you let them cut on you…..my .02 worth. 2 1 Quote
Fly Boomer Posted Tuesday at 06:33 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:33 PM 2 hours ago, hubcap said: I have had procedures performed on both of my shoulders. The left shoulder wasn’t as bad as the right shoulder. I had PRP (platelet rich plasma) performed on the left shoulder and the results have been remarkable. I would say it’s about 99% as good as new based on the way it feels. My right shoulder was much worse, so the Dr performed a stem cell procedure on it. I would say it’s about 97% as good as new based on the way it works and feels. Both procedures are “out patient” and no knives are used. Recovery is a few days and the healing process continues for up to 9 months. Would do either procedure again without reservations. I am thinking about having stem cells done on my knee. If you have a bad shoulder at least check out either of these options before you let them cut on you…..my .02 worth. Sounds pretty exotic. Where did you get these procedures done? Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM 2 hours ago, Fly Boomer said: Sounds pretty exotic. Where did you get these procedures done? Around here there is a clinic that advertises relentlessly on the radio called QC Kinetics is actually selling PRP. I've read it can be done by just about any doctor. It is an approved procedure. Insurance will not pay for it because the results are kind of hit and miss. But sometimes it works great. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/plateletrich-plasma-prp-treatment https://physicians.dukehealth.org/articles/stem-cell-therapy-osteoarthritis-reviewed-miles-study 1 Quote
Hank Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM 6 hours ago, hubcap said: I have had procedures performed on both of my shoulders. The left shoulder wasn’t as bad as the right shoulder. I had PRP (platelet rich plasma) performed on the left shoulder and the results have been remarkable. I would say it’s about 99% as good as new based on the way it feels. My right shoulder was much worse, so the Dr performed a stem cell procedure on it. I would say it’s about 97% as good as new based on the way it works and feels. Both procedures are “out patient” and no knives are used. Recovery is a few days and the healing process continues for up to 9 months. Would do either procedure again without reservations. I am thinking about having stem cells done on my knee. If you have a bad shoulder at least check out either of these options before you let them cut on you…..my .02 worth. 1 hour ago, N201MKTurbo said: Around here there is a clinic that advertises relentlessly on the radio called QC Kinetics is actually selling PRP. I've read it can be done by just about any doctor. It is an approved procedure. Insurance will not pay for it because the results are kind of hit and miss. But sometimes it works great. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/plateletrich-plasma-prp-treatment https://physicians.dukehealth.org/articles/stem-cell-therapy-osteoarthritis-reviewed-miles-study I'll study up on these. Both shoulders bother me a bit, the right one that had scope & clean 23 years ago is getting up to its old tricks again. Recovery last time was ~4 months . . . But I'm older now, and have a Mooney in the hangar! Quote
carusoam Posted yesterday at 12:10 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:10 AM 9 hours ago, Pinecone said: You forgot the early to late morning, where all the hot moms are working on staying hot. sometimes it occurs at 7pm… Zumba! it even sounds fun… mothers and 20yr old daughters working together… with a few daring old guys mixed in. lots of family activity going on around here… remember to stay in your lane… the kids can run 6 minute miles… the dads have heart attacks chasing 7 minute miles… nothing gets in the way of your flying like a good myocardial infarction..! PP thoughts only, no medical background… best regards, -a- Quote
hubcap Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM 7 hours ago, Fly Boomer said: Sounds pretty exotic. Where did you get these procedures done? I live in the Kansas City area. The doctor who did my procedures trained under the doctor who does the procedure for the St Louis Cardinals baseball team/players. Apparently these procedures are widely used in professional sports. Insurance doesn’t cover it but if you have an airplane this will look like a bargain. If I remember correctly, the stem cell procedure was ~$3,800 and the PRP was about half that. I couldn’t be happier with the results. Before I had the procedure on the right shoulder it was pain 24 - 7. I couldn’t sleep at night. Quote
Fly Boomer Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM 1 minute ago, hubcap said: I couldn’t be happier with the results. Before I had the procedure on the right shoulder it was pain 24 - 7. I couldn’t sleep at night. Success stories like yours are hard to come by. Good to hear how well it worked for you. That kind of pain is no bueno. Quote
hubcap Posted yesterday at 02:22 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:22 AM 2 minutes ago, Fly Boomer said: Success stories like yours are hard to come by. Good to hear how well it worked for you. That kind of pain is no bueno. That is no joke. I was miserable. Quote
Hank Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM 51 minutes ago, hubcap said: Insurance doesn’t cover it but if you have an airplane this will look like a bargain. If I remember correctly, the stem cell procedure was ~$3,800 and the PRP was about half that. I couldn’t be happier with the results. Before I had the procedure on the right shoulder it was pain 24 - 7. I couldn’t sleep at night. Wow! The insurance rate for scope & clean in Dec 2001 was $12,900! I'm gonna look into this! Quote
Pinecone Posted yesterday at 12:43 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:43 PM 21 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: The one thing that bothers the hot moms more than checking them out while they work out, is not checking them out.... I have noticed that. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted yesterday at 08:09 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:09 PM For all you nerds out there, this is what I got: https://www.arthrex.com/resources/AN1-00305-EN/univers-revers-universal-glenoid-convertible-baseplate https://www.arthrex.com/resources/AN1-000034-en-US/eclipse-total-shoulder-arthroplasty-system-features-and-benefits?referringteam=arthroplasty_shoulder Quote
Hank Posted yesterday at 09:06 PM Report Posted yesterday at 09:06 PM 55 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said: For all you nerds out there, this is what I got: https://www.arthrex.com/resources/AN1-00305-EN/univers-revers-universal-glenoid-convertible-baseplate https://www.arthrex.com/resources/AN1-000034-en-US/eclipse-total-shoulder-arthroplasty-system-features-and-benefits?referringteam=arthroplasty_shoulder Cool! Once you heal.up and finish PT, you shouldn't have any more joint pain! Ever . . . Quote
hubcap Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago 20 hours ago, Hank said: Wow! The insurance rate for scope & clean in Dec 2001 was $12,900! I'm gonna look into this! You will need to have an X-ray at the minimum before my Dr will schedule the procedure. When you do the consult you get the orders for the X-ray. Insurance should pay for the X-ray. Quote
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