co-pilot exiting the plane

[kris_adams]

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any secrets I can share with the passengers that ride in the co-pilot's seat?  It is comical watching people exit.  I've had a lot of "athletic" people have no issue, but I've also had my fair share of rolling out onto the wing.  I can't seem to master the coaching instructions to get a consistent exit from that seat.  The back seat passengers never really have a problem.  Seems like it would be a lot easier if the copilot seat slid back another 6 inches or so.

Thanks!

Kris

 

[ArtVandelay]

Put your right knee on the seat and step out with right hand on seat back and left grabbing the handle. It's especially difficult if they have something in their hand.

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Kris_Adams said:

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any secrets I can share with the passengers that ride in the co-pilot's seat?  It is comical watching people exit.  I've had a lot of "athletic" people have no issue, but I've also had my fair share of rolling out onto the wing.  I can't seem to master the coaching instructions to get a consistent exit from that seat.  The back seat passengers never really have a problem.  Seems like it would be a lot easier if the copilot seat slid back another 6 inches or so.

Thanks!

Kris

 

Marauder might have some suggestions if the passengers are larger than standard.

Clarence 

[kris_adams]

2 hours ago, M20Doc said:

Marauder might have some suggestions if the passengers are larger than standard.

Clarence 

I was hoping Marauder might chime in.  While I haven't seen any of his pax I've read a lot of good stories!

[Jeff_S]

My general recommendation is to have them back out of the plane. It's easier to use the handle and support yourself on the seat if necessary. However, this does require some leg strength to accomplish. For elder folks with less leg strength, my technique getting in is to have them sit on the front of the wing, scoot back along the wing walk and then swing their legs in. To get out, just do the process backward. It worked well for my 80 year old father with two artificial knees.

[N201MKTurbo]

Have them move the seat all the way back. Spin around so they are kneeling on the seat facing the back of the plane. Put their left foot out on the wing and step out. The only problem is they will try to use the top of the door to steady themselves.

[Marauder]

2 hours ago, M20Doc said: Marauder might have some suggestions if the passengers are larger than standard.

Clarence 

I was hoping Marauder might chime in.  While I haven't seen any of his pax I've read a lot of good stories!

Well, from personal experience, you need to have a full suite of tools to assist in the endeavor. Shoe horns, containers of KY Jelly and even a small hydraulic jack certainly make the process easier.

Then again a hefty push might all that is needed.

As a recent passenger I find that the "roll and crawl" technique is the most effective. The "butt slide" on wing walk just, well, an abrasive technique.

[bradp]

6 hours ago, Marauder said:

Well, from personal experience, you need to have a full suite of tools to assist in the endeavor. Shoe horns, containers of KY Jelly and even a small hydraulic jack certainly make the process easier.

Then again a hefty push might all that is needed.

As a recent passenger I find that the "roll and crawl" technique is the most effective. The "butt slide" on wing walk just, well, an abrasive technique.

If that fails there's always the jaws of life =)

[201er]

13 hours ago, Kris_Adams said:

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any secrets I can share with the passengers that ride in the co-pilot's seat?  It is comical watching people exit.  I've had a lot of "athletic" people have no issue, but I've also had my fair share of rolling out onto the wing.  I can't seem to master the coaching instructions to get a consistent exit from that seat.  The back seat passengers never really have a problem.  Seems like it would be a lot easier if the copilot seat slid back another 6 inches or so.

Thanks!

Kris

 

We won't know until the new two door M20 hits production and pilots will have to climb out same as passengers.

[bonal]

You put your right foot out you put your right foot in your right foot out and you shake it all about. Do the hoakey pokey and you turn yourself around that's how you leave the plane.

[N201MKTurbo]

13 minutes ago, bonal said:

You put your right foot out you put your right foot in your right foot out and you shake it all about. Do the hoakey pokey and you turn yourself around that's how you leave the plane.

Oh I can hear the organ playing down at Rollaro right now....

[bonal]

Yesterday I was doing some maintenance and sitting in right seat time to get out and I'm thinking how am I to do this. My wife rolls out onto the wing then stands up. I wonder about the new Mooney's 2 doors since it's easier for pilot to use right side than PAX will the new owners continue to use the right side door.

[N201MKTurbo]

Just now, bonal said:

Yesterday I was doing some maintenance and sitting in right seat time to get out and I'm thinking how am I to do this. My wife rolls out onto the wing then stands up. I wonder about the new Mooney's 2 doors since it's easier for pilot to use right side than PAX will the new owners continue to use the right side door.

Oh, I can see it now, the crossover maneuver!

[N201MKTurbo]

15 minutes ago, Hyett6420 said:

Ps its okey cokey. . 

Actually, where you are from its the Hokey Cokey 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokey_cokey

I actually did the Hokey Cokey at the Queens Ice and Bowl in 2004....

Edited April 17, 2016 by N201MKTurbo

[Andy95W]

Andrew- I thought your partner might've been Douglas Bader.

[bonal]

Ok so I spelled it wrong but here in the states it's definitely the Hokey Pokey and I think if one uses the lyrics I provided it would get you out of the plane having a cadence will always help with difficult maneuvers 

[jlunseth]

14 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said:

Have them move the seat all the way back. Spin around so they are kneeling on the seat facing the back of the plane. Put their left foot out on the wing and step out. The only problem is they will try to use the top of the door to steady themselves.

Yup.  Get out going backwards.  It is really easy that way.

[neilpilot]

Reminds me of my first Angel flight many years ago.  Picked up a passenger in Arkansas on first leg of flight to Houston.  Landed in Monroe LA, and she had a bit of a problem exiting.  Then she removed her prosthetic right leg, handed it to the lineman who had offered to assist, and easily shimmied onto the wing.  

You should have see the surprise on the lineman's face!

Up until that point, I had no idea that she was an amputee.

[Bartman]

Seat all the way back, and grab the center roll cage just below the magnetic compass with the left hand.  Grab the pull strap or the front door frame with the right hand.  While pulling with both hands, stand straight up and put the back against the rear of the door frame.  Readjust the hands and feet an place the right foot on the wing walk, and then pivot around and put the left foot on the wing walk.  Do not touch the door at any time..