Bennett Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Posted August 4, 2012 For sizes, mounting, and other questions: www.dynonavionics.com and drill down to D-1. Quote
Bennett Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Posted August 4, 2012 For sizes, mounting, and other questions: www.dynonavionics.com and drill down to D-1. DUPLICATE - SORRY Quote
gsengle Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 Quote: PilotDerek G, Look at your log in name. You've been bugged. You posted three times under my profile. None of the above posts are from me. Quote
PilotDerek Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 Quote: gsengle sorry about that! I was wondering why I wasn't getting new post notifications. Quote
Cabanaboy Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 AVWEB video of Dynon in action. Looks pretty neat! Quote
Bennett Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Posted August 16, 2012 I bent up a plastic report cover as a "proof of concept" sun shade, and then went out and tested it. Great improvement, and now that I know a sun shade makes such a difference, I will fabricate one out of thicker plastic, so that the shape will be maintained at the lower corners, and flat on the top. I also will make mild cut-backs for the various controls and buttons. An interesting side note. When I made up this initial mock-up, I inadvertently covered some the labels on the D1, and when I went to charge the unit before putting it back in place, I (ultimately)learned that the Dynon AC charger fitting is exactly the same diameter and length as the remote GPS antenna fitting. Naturally I plugged the charger into the GPS female fitting on the left side of the unit, and was surprised that the charge icon didn't change. Of course I immediately suspected that either the charger was bad, or that my AC supply was dead. Once I determined the AC source was live, I pulled out the D1 manual and found that the charger was to be plugged in on the right side of the unit, proving again that when all else fails, read the dang manual,stupid. Anyway, really neat unit, and as been pointed out to me, the sun shade will not be necessary if you need the unit to descend through clouds - no sunshine in the clouds. Nevertheless I do like the idea of a sun shade, if for no other reason than to cross check other instruments while flying VFR. Quote
AmigOne Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 Dynon manufactures superb and more complex avionics for the experimental and LSA markets, all reasonably (like in afordable) priced. That is the best pirep for me and the price is right. I wish I could install Dynon's FlightDek 180 which if I were to do it with STC's eqipment it would cost three times more. Given today's market price of my airplane it makes no sense (in my case) to dump a lot $$$ in STC TSO'd equipment. Whatever money is left in my flying budget goes into the front end of the airplane. The D-1 will give me great piece of mind, I'm expecting mine next week. Quote
co2bruce Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 You will be surprised how well you can maintain roll and pitch angle with just the turn coordinator, VSI and altimeter. To maintain heading I use the HSI page on the Aera 560 which also provides lateral and vertical guidance to the runway. If you have a flight simulator try doing an approach without an ADI. You will be surprised how easy is to do it. To avoid over pitching use the trim instead of the elevator. I found the 5Hz update rate of the Aera HSI suitable for even maintaing attitude control. The Aera VSI responds quicker than the pneumatic VSI and the Aera turn coordinator is good enough for roll control. Do not over control and you will surprised how this gadget can save your life even if you loose everything. Remember even if you have attitude indication you still need to bring the airplane down safely to an airport. José Quote
FloridaMan Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 This is mine. Hopefully they sell well enough that next year they release their entire synthetic vision panel as a clip-on. Quote
jetdriven Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 In moderate or greater turbulence a turn-and-slip indicator is useless and a turn cordinator is slow and difficult to use. I am convinced that many of these loss of control and crash accidents near thrunderstorms is because the AI tumbles and the T/C is not enough to keep it rightside up. You know, the first airplane I flew with a turn and slip needle had a lazy attitude indicator. I got disoriented in it and wrote it up. Later that plane crashed and the pilot was killed. N402ME. Since then, I have been serious about backups that work. Two AI's like we have is better, but this D1 is the king's X. Quote
Bennett Posted August 25, 2012 Author Report Posted August 25, 2012 I found a downside to the D1. It is a portable, and I dropped it when taking out of the mount. My fault entirely. I called Dynon to get a RMA number to get it repaired, and they told me that they would consider it covered under warranty. I think they will I had Dynon panels in my LSA and they were great for upgrades and service. Speaking of upgrade! Garmin will have an upgrade for the 796 in a couple of months. If you check the newest issue of FLYING, there is a photo of the 796 in 3D mode that shows a VSi tape alongside the altitude tape - not on the current 796 software, and I have been told that the 796 will get Bluetoth as well. A great unit getting better. Quote
Piloto Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 Quote: jetdriven In moderate or greater turbulence a turn-and-slip indicator is useless and a turn cordinator is slow and difficult to use. I am convinced that many of these loss of control and crash accidents near thrunderstorms is because the AI tumbles and the T/C is not enough to keep it rightside up. You know, the first airplane I flew with a turn and slip needle had a lazy attitude indicator. I got disoriented in it and wrote it up. Later that plane crashed and the pilot was killed. N402ME. Since then, I have been serious about backups that work. Two AI's like we have is better, but this D1 is the king's X. Quote
AmigOne Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 The TC can not tumble but the way I have seen those little wings move up and down in moderate, even something between light and moderate, tells me that I don't want to be chasing them to stay level. Quote
FAST FLIGHT OPTIONS LLC Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 How about this one. It fits into the panel and I belive it's a viable replacement for the TC? http://sarasotaavionics.com/avionics/gemini-pfd Quote
jamesm Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 Has anyone actually block out the GPS antenna on the D1 to see how the ADI portion functions with no GPS reference once the ADI is initialize ? I realize the D1 may need the GPS to initialize the ADI but after initialization is done. I am curious to see how well it preforms. I would expect to lose Heading,Altitude,Airspeed. Thanks, James M. '67C Quote
Bennett Posted August 26, 2012 Author Report Posted August 26, 2012 The TruTrack unit that posted on this thread is unfortunately only for experimanetal and LSAs. I had a TruTrack autopilot on my LSA, and it was a truly great performg unit, easily matching the capabilities of the certified units. I doubt if the FAA would grant approval of a TruTrack anything being installed in our Mooneys. Dynon, TruTrack and others are producing innovative and inexpensive avionics that outside of the "portable" Dynon D1 are for LSAs and experimentals. Garmin has done a great job (but expensive) with the 796, which is getting more capable all the time. They seem to have found a way to bridge the gap by keeping the 796 portable, but allowing crossfeeding of data to the Garmin GTN series, and permanent power via cables or the AirGizmos mount. Once the interface becomes Bluetooth, as already scheduled, they can make a better argument that the unit is a true portable. I really like the competition in avionics, and soon I expect the iPad (especially the rumored 7" iPad) to become a standard fixture in our aircraft. I love Foreflight now, and I can only imagine, and hope, what it will be like in a year or two. Quote
gsengle Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Quote: Antares This is mine. Hopefully they sell well enough that next year they release their entire synthetic vision panel as a clip-on. Quote
gsengle Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Quote: gsengle I LOVE mine. Looks great docked in the panel. The panel dock is really clever. g Quote
aviatoreb Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Quote: gsengle I LOVE mine. Looks great docked in the panel. The panel dock is really clever. g Quote
gsengle Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Quote: aviatoreb oh and here is the photo... Quote
aviatoreb Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Quote: gsengle oh and here is the photo... Quote
gsengle Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Quote: aviatoreb I love the way that mounts - I wouldn't have guessed the FAA would allow it - it is practically panel mounted. Now that this company has gotten away with that - I suppose anyone can do it - why not make a handheld gps device like the Garmin Aera or 396 that is the same size/form as this Dynon attitude indicator that also mounts into a hole in the same way? Quote
jetdriven Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 We hve the aera 500 in an airgizmos panel dock. It is pretty cool. Legal too without a 337. The aera is not "permanently mounted". It now has weather and traffic on it as well. Amazing stuff. Love that Dynon D1. Quote
carusoam Posted August 31, 2012 Report Posted August 31, 2012 That mounts nicely in the M20R panel. Need to see a JPI 830 upgrade in there as well? Best regards, -a- Quote
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