1964-M20E Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 It is a shame to see a fine airplane just wasting away. The plane appears to be a 64 E model. Where is it located? I wonder if it could be rescued. Current value $0 Cost to restore $60k+ Value after $40 - $50k L Quote
Piloto Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 At the rate fuel prices are going up this will not be the only one. José Quote
scottfromiowa Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Part this thing out! There is a lot of value there. What a bummer.... Quote
Ron McBride Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Fuel prices going up. Remember a Cherokee 180 and others, burn the same fuel and travel less distance. this makes my Mooney look better and batter. Ron Quote
bradp Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 I think I saw that plane listed on BT website last week. NDH and "a steal". In all seriousness it is a shame to see that plane in such a condition. Quote
Seth Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 There is an M20J like that at Freeway (W00). The story on it is that it was invovled in some sort of legal issue and literally is not allowed to be moved, so it sits in the grass tiedown where it's been for 20+ years. It pretty much is worth the scrapmetal at this point. I'll see if I can find a picture or take one at some point. -Seth Quote
Shadrach Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 From the other pics that blueskytraveler has posted it appears that there is a weed engulfed twin Cessna nearby. It looks that they've already started to cannibalize the rudderless Cessna. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 That should be criminal! What a sad sight. Quote
Shadrach Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 That is a big friggin' side window door...is it stock? Quote
1964-M20E Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Posted February 27, 2012 I noticed that as well. ??? Emergency exit for your dog. :-)) Quote
Jerry 5TJ Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 I just had a look at the FAA registry and counted up all the N numbered Mooneys. List below. Closer to home, how about my "C" model? Pilotfriend.com lists 2,045 "C" models built from 1962 through 1978 (none at all in 1971-1974) so about 3/4 of those birds are still on the registry. A fraction of the registred ones are not airworthy. Now that the FAA renews registrations every three years a number of grounded birds may drop off the records. I'd estimate there are no more than 1000 "C" model Mooneys still worth anything, with several hundred in the weeds and in abandonded states here and there. Still, that half of the population of "C" are still flying after 40+ years is a testament to their lasting value, or....something. FAA Registry as of 2/27/2012 M20 107 M20A 240 M20B 137 M20C 1,592 M20D 122 M20E 1,073 M20F 881 M20G 147 Pre J TOTAL 4,299 M20J 1,557 M20K 888 M20L 27 M20M 269 M20R 426 M20S 61 M20T 1 M20TN 115 Post J TOTAL 3,344 All M20 TOTAL 7,643 All M18 TOTAL 160 All M22 TOTAL 20 Quote
aviatoreb Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Quote: jerry-N5911Q I just had a look at the FAA registry and counted up all the N numbered Mooneys. List below. Closer to home, how about my "C" model? Pilotfriend.com lists 2,045 "C" models built from 1962 through 1978 (none at all in 1971-1974) so about 3/4 of those birds are still on the registry. A fraction of the registred ones are not airworthy. Now that the FAA renews registrations every three years a number of grounded birds may drop off the records. I'd estimate there are no more than 1000 "C" model Mooneys still worth anything, with several hundred in the weeds and in abandonded states here and there. Still, that half of the population of "C" are still flying after 40+ years is a testament to their lasting value, or....something. FAA Registry as of 2/27/2012 M20 107 M20A 240 M20B 137 M20C 1,592 M20D 122 M20E 1,073 M20F 881 M20G 147 Pre J TOTAL 4,299 M20J 1,557 M20K 888 M20L 27 M20M 269 M20R 426 M20S 61 M20T 1 M20TN 115 Post J TOTAL 3,344 All M20 TOTAL 7,643 All M18 TOTAL 160 All M22 TOTAL 20 Quote
John Pleisse Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Ya never know.... crack that baby open.....it might not be as bad as it looks. Do it in the winter...fewer snakes and critters. If it were free.... I'd come and get it. Quote
triple8s Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 I have AWAYS been one that all too often sees the glass half full. Sometimes this is good and other times it may not be so good; that being said since MAC is not producing anything anymore these old aircraft are definately worth something as parts but the longer that they set out in the weather the fewer parts that will actually be useable over time. There is a vintage "E" model wasting away on tie down at my home airport and it pains me to watch it rot down in its tracks. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Being registered does not necessarily mean they're still airworthy, much less in flying condition. I'd be shocked if any of the M22's were still flying. I would have loved the chance to get a free derelict as a teenager and student/young pilot. I would have been willing to take such a plane and try to bring it back from the dead since a project like that is largely labor-intensive, at least until it comes time to buy some of the major bits. Quote
MooneyMitch Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Quote: triple8s I have AWAYS been one that all too often sees the glass half full. Sometimes this is good and other times it may not be so good; that being said since MAC is not producing anything anymore these old aircraft are definately worth something as parts but the longer that they set out in the weather the fewer parts that will actually be useable over time. There is a vintage "E" model wasting away on tie down at my home airport and it pains me to watch it rot down in its tracks. Quote
orangemtl Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 I recall an estimate somewhere, that 11-12,000 Mooneys have been produced, ever. For 7800 to remain (subtracting the technically existent but out of commission here, compensated by the working international contingent) is, I think quite a feat. It will clearly be a shrinking number until/unless Mooney rejoins the production world. Fascinating to me that at least as many M18s exist, as Acclaims! Quote
jetdriven Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Quote: N4352H Ya never know.... crack that baby open.....it might not be as bad as it looks. Do it in the winter...fewer snakes and critters. If it were free.... I'd come and get it. Quote
Bolter Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Quote: jetdriven The above was me: posting system error. Sorry Jetdriven. -dan Quote
M20F Posted February 27, 2012 Report Posted February 27, 2012 Quote: KSMooniac Being registered does not necessarily mean they're still airworthy, much less in flying condition. I'd be shocked if any of the M22's were still flying. Quote
N9453V Posted February 28, 2012 Report Posted February 28, 2012 Quote: jerry-N5911Q I just had a look at the FAA registry and counted up all the N numbered Mooneys. List below. Closer to home, how about my "C" model? Pilotfriend.com lists 2,045 "C" models built from 1962 through 1978 (none at all in 1971-1974) so about 3/4 of those birds are still on the registry. A fraction of the registred ones are not airworthy. Now that the FAA renews registrations every three years a number of grounded birds may drop off the records. I'd estimate there are no more than 1000 "C" model Mooneys still worth anything, with several hundred in the weeds and in abandonded states here and there. Still, that half of the population of "C" are still flying after 40+ years is a testament to their lasting value, or....something. FAA Registry as of 2/27/2012 M20 107 M20A 240 M20B 137 M20C 1,592 M20D 122 M20E 1,073 M20F 881 M20G 147 Pre J TOTAL 4,299 M20J 1,557 M20K 888 M20L 27 M20M 269 M20R 426 M20S 61 M20T 1 M20TN 115 Post J TOTAL 3,344 All M20 TOTAL 7,643 All M18 TOTAL 160 All M22 TOTAL 20 Quote
BlueSkyTraveler Posted February 28, 2012 Report Posted February 28, 2012 The plane is sitting at Donegal Springs, PA identifier N71 Appears to be registered to a St. Louis individual?!?!? N900TL is the tail number. If anyone has any info please share......... Quote
Shadrach Posted February 28, 2012 Report Posted February 28, 2012 From the google earth historical images, it appears this aircraft stopped flying more recently than we may think. Images between 2005 and 2008. During that time span images show it in various tiedowns around the airport or not at all until it ends up in what looks like its current resting place in mid-2008. It seems to have deteriorated quickly, but it may not be as bad as it looks (which is admittedly horrible)... Quote
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