M20F-1968 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Posted August 10, 2019 This topic was merged with another 7 1 Quote
Guitarmaster Posted August 10, 2019 Report Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 6:17 PM, M20F-1968 said: I and N954N were at Oshkosh 2019. N954N was awarded a Lindy Award - Best Class II Single Engine (161 - 230 HP). Trying to hold up the Vintage Mooney tradition. John Breda Lindy Award Docs - 2019.pdf Congrats John! I know how much work you put into that airplane! Well deserved... Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote
M20F-1968 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Posted August 10, 2019 N954N were at Oshkosh 2019. N954N was awarded a Lindy Award - Best Class II Single Engine (161 - 230 HP). Trying to hold up the Vintage Mooney tradition. John Breda 8 Quote
Hank Posted August 10, 2019 Report Posted August 10, 2019 Beautiful plane! Nice looking awards, too. Quote
yvesg Posted August 10, 2019 Report Posted August 10, 2019 Congrat John to you and the great sister. Yves Quote
MB65E Posted August 10, 2019 Report Posted August 10, 2019 Awesome John! Your attention to detail is beyond many of us. Well done!!! -Matt Quote
jamesm Posted August 11, 2019 Report Posted August 11, 2019 I like what you did with the windows, very nice John Quote
StevenL757 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Posted August 11, 2019 I agree...and we should give a shout-out to our mutual IA/mechanic consultant, Mr. Brian Kendrick, for helping maintain our respective birds. Congrats John! Steve Quote
M20F-1968 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 1:10 AM, StevenL757 said: I agree...and we should give a shout-out to our mutual IA/mechanic consultant, Mr. Brian Kendrick, for helping maintain our respective birds. Congrats John! Steve Expand Already did. John Breda Quote
carusoam Posted August 11, 2019 Report Posted August 11, 2019 A ‘standing’ round of applause! -a- Quote
wcb Posted August 11, 2019 Report Posted August 11, 2019 The few things that stand out about your bird that I really think makes it pop (trust me I love it all) are the way you handle the intake for the turbo, built in O2, and landing lights in the wings. Of course your speed mods, interior, rounded windows, panel and paint are wonderful but it is some of these types of details that pull it together. 1. Do you have better pictures of the intake for the turbo? (If you remember you sold me some of my RAYJAY stuff. Someday when I get around to paint I would like to do something similar. The below picture is before my oil cooler relocation which has already been done.) 2. Adding the landing lights in the wing was field approval? Quote
M20F-1968 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 12:59 PM, wcb said: The few things that stand out about your bird that I really think makes it pop (trust me I love it all) are the way you handle the intake for the turbo, built in O2, and landing lights in the wings. Of course your speed mods, interior, rounded windows, panel and paint are wonderful but it is some of these types of details that pull it together. 1. Do you have better pictures of the intake for the turbo? (If you remember you sold me some of my RAYJAY stuff. Someday when I get around to paint I would like to do something similar. The below picture is before my oil cooler relocation which has already been done.) 2. Adding the landing lights in the wing was field approval? Expand There is an intercooler behind the air intake with a fiberglass plenum and rubber seal. The outlet fins are metal and fiberglassed into the cowling on each side. The landing lights in the wings were done with DER approval. Quote
wcb Posted August 11, 2019 Report Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 1:41 PM, M20F-1968 said: There is an intercooler behind the air intake with a fiberglass plenum and rubber seal. The outlet fins are metal and fiberglassed into the cowling on each side. The landing lights in the wings were done with DER approval. Expand Maybe my MSC can figure that out. Without close up pictures I am still unclear. I always thought the ovation triangle would be a cool intake upgrade. My outlet shark fins are basically the same as yours which are fine. Quote
jamesm Posted August 12, 2019 Report Posted August 12, 2019 It looks nice. Do the fuel injected Lycoming's have same High CHT's on climb out as some of the carburetored "C" Models do ? How are CHT's on climb out with the side louvers ? Mine tends to be Cylinders #2  (Left side) are usually the hottest on climb out. I had spare Mooney left side cowl and spare left side engine louver from either C-182/C-210/C-206. That I was considering installing in the side spare cowl to see if that increase the exit air flow to lower the CHT's temps on climb out. Haven't gotten around to that project yet. James '67C Quote
wcb Posted August 12, 2019 Report Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 1:52 AM, jamesm said: It looks nice. Do the fuel injected Lycoming's have same High CHT's on climb out as some of the carburetored "C" Models do ? How are CHT's on climb out with the side louvers ? Mine tends to be Cylinders #2  (Left side) are usually the hottest on climb out. I had spare Mooney left side cowl and spare left side engine louver from either C-182/C-210/C-206. That I was considering installing in the side spare cowl to see if that increase the exit air flow to lower the CHT's temps on climb out. Haven't gotten around to that project yet. James '67C Expand The side louvers are for the after market turbo's. (specifically for mine the RAYJAY turbo) I can only speak for me but I have never really had a CHT problem as with some others. Quote
carusoam Posted August 12, 2019 Report Posted August 12, 2019 Expect adding fins to the side cowl to not add anything better than the dog house already supplies... To improve cooling of cylinders requires improving the amount of air being guided into and out of the cooling fins... The square doghouse is generally crummy at guiding air from the top to the bottom of the cowl... Picture the air entering the top of the cowl... turning 90° down, through the fins... turning Dow another 90° again to exit out the back of the cowl.... high pressure at the top... drives the air towards low pressure at the bottom... add vents might even change the amount of pressure at the top or bottom... This is pretty much the reason to have STCs... they document proven solutions, They might be accidental improvements for some things... but they are technically documented to make faithful copies.... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- Quote
67 m20F chump Posted August 12, 2019 Report Posted August 12, 2019 John, have you ever posted a thread about all the modifications you have done to your plane? I have tried to figure out some of them but what you did is impressive. Nice work and congratulations on the award. Russell Quote
jamesm Posted August 13, 2019 Report Posted August 13, 2019 So what I have been told that ideally you want the exit air outlet opening larger than the opening air inlet. If my measurement are correct even with the Lasar cowl encloser area is maybe 1" more at the bottom cowl flaps which is a high pressure area and not mention a hotter air as well . There has been the paper floating around about how bad the mid 60's Mooney's guppy mouth design has so much drag it spilling out front of the cowl and identifying the problem other than Lasar (helps a little better than original design) and saber cowl and few others no body seems to be interested in resolving this problem. This be better explained by the video starting in about 40 sec mark. Quote
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